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Fancy something a little different from the usual aerobatic scale models? This superbly made Votec 332 is just for you!
This great looking ARF model is a full balsa/ply construction and is built to be light yet strong, it features a full airfoil horizontal stabilizer and generous control surfaces all round. The finish is excellent and features expertly applied covering and nicely painted wheel pants and cowl. The Votec is also very practical courtesy of it's 2pc plug in wings and large, easy to remove canopy. The supplied hardware is excellent quality and in terms of build time, this superb aerobatic model should be performing Harriers at your field in double quick time.
Refreshingly different, there is no doubt the Votec 322 offers both the 3D & Sport pilot a great looking, superb performing aerobatic scale model that will be the talking point of your field!
Hello there, I was wondering if the HXT500 5g / .8kg / .10sec Micro Servo would work in the VOTECH322 - Votec 332 3D Balsa 1397mm (ARF) plane? If those servos dont work in that plane, can you please recommend servos that I can use with the votec?
VinJack at this time that will be difficult. There was a great Colour manual for this. Soon it should come back. Till then if you go to the Member Forum (Blue Tab at Top Of the Page) and send a Private Message. User Name: NewToHobbyKing If there you give me your email address, I can send you the Color one I down loaded. Or you could just wait till HobbyKing clear the files to go back up. (I could up load but till cleared it will not post). I am happy to help.
VinJack at this time that will be difficult. There was a great Colour manual for this. Soon it should come back. Till then if you go to the Member Forum (Blue Tab at Top Of the Page) and send a Private Message. User Name: NewToHobbyKing If there you give me your email address, I can send you the Color one I down loaded. Or you could just wait till HobbyKing clear the files to go back up. (I could up load but till cleared it will not post). I am happy to help.
Hello!
Can you recommend a motor for this model?
In the video using the Turnigy Aerodrive SK3 - 3548-700kv. Is right and there is another that goes best?
You can use any motor that has a length of ~48mm. 35 is standard, I used a 42 and it fits with small modifications also perfect. I would go for a 42-48 650kV with 5S and 13x8 or 35-48 700kV with 4S and 14x7 to 15x8. Depends on what you would like to do with it.
Benjamin what have you been flying. I hate recommending next plane, when I do not know where you are at this time. Balsa does not fly, to much different than foam but it does crash worse. I love my Votec and would say go for that, but I had a look at the Edge 540 to and that was very nice too. I do think the edge will be a bit quicker in the air. Anyway for you first balsa I would recommend the Spacewalker 1580mm Balsa ARF EP/GP (PRODUCT ID: 341000001)
Hola Patricio!! Si ese producto te lo enví*an a Chile sin problemas, debes tener en cuenta que el enví*o es un poco lento pero llega, y los derechos de importació*n que tienes que pagar por la nacionalizació*n de la mercancí*a a Chile. Saludos desde Colombia!!
Hi all this will be my first balsa plane and I want to nail the servo selection. Below its suggested to use 17g for aileron and rudder but above only the mg90s 13.4 gram are offered I also noted the mg929's mentioned below and there seems to be vary few 17g servos. Could someone please give advice on wich servos to get for a good complete and setup thanks.
The original setup will be: Two 13x23mm Servos for Elevators and three 15x28mm Servos for Aileron and Rudder. I tried that setup, it works, but for the throws of a 3d plane you need stronger servos for the elevators. So i cuttet the holes for the elevator servos bigger and placed there also 25x28mm Servos. I'm using now Corona DS238MG with longer horns everywhere and it works just perfect for 3D.
viper, so what do you think about this plane.. i'm wanting a 3d plane my self like a 300 or 540.. how does this plane measure up.. if you had it to do over would you buy this one or **** plane?
I never had a plane from the company you want the comparsion. I only can say you that I'm really satisfied with the Votec. With larger elevator servos it's a really good 3d plane. i would buy it again any time. One mistakte I wrote above: My elevator Servos have 28x15 and not 28x25...
Hi all, just got off the support line. Don't expect a manual for this plane any HK plane. I was informed that HK does not include manuals to keep the price down.
Yes, I must agree, it is one of the best manuals I have ever seen here! It is in colour. It is quite strange that CS, did not know that. This is where you get most (not all) of the manuals from. I LOVE THIS PLANE.
*NewToHobbyKing - Especially since I emailed CS and told them I placed the manual I created there! Never received any credit for it either. I've been thinking of maybe providing a service to create more manuals for other HK models on a donation based plan, but I have to think it through as to how to set it up.
Your manual is great. In colour. It is very helpful to show what you will be getting and the standard there off. It would be so cool if you could do the all the manual. Then we would have a standard. So it is a shame HobbyKing does not pay, but that is the way they do things here!
Well I need to ask again, I want to buy her buy I need some question answered PLEASE. I can buy it here for only $5 more than buying in the Australia Warehouse. Is she any good and what are the pro and cons please.
I really love the Votec and it is a superb 3D plane.
Pros: Extremly light, mine weights 2.2kg with a 5S and a 42-48 Motor ready fro flight. The quality is better then on any other HK plane, everything fits and works. Also the landing gears are good enough if you can fly (and land).
Cons: The aloy tube for the wings pinches quite much.
I would buy it anytime again, one of my all time favourite planes...
Ciao, ho acquistato questo modello e volevo montare il turnigy 4258 800kv, ma l'alberino del motore mi sporge dalla parte opposta verso il parafiamma e non so come poter fissare l'elica, come posso fare???
You will need to either slide your motor shaft to the other side, (requires grinding in a new c-clip groove), or you can use stand-off motor mounts, search Product ID: 201000004. ||| Usted tendrá* que ya sea deslizar el eje del motor hacia el otro lado, (se requiere de molienda en un nuevo c-clip de la ranura), o puede usar stand-off soportes de motor de bú*squeda, identificació*n del producto: 201000004.
Here's a video of my maiden flight. I didn't have someone to record for me so I went with an onboard cam. Also, if anyone is interested in buying this plane, it doesn't seem to come with instructions so I made some and put them in the Files tab above. Hope they help. :)
mi è arrivato oggi e devo montarlo ho notato che c'e su youtube un video di hk di questo aereo.
nel video si nota che nel timone è stato modificato la spinetta e messo il servo vicino la batteria che spinetta simile posso aquistare qui su hk?
e che lipo? io ho 4s 2200 30c oppure 4s 3800 30c quale potrebbere andare? considerato che montero un 3548 NTM 650KV e regolatore 70 A con 14x7
ho preso dei servi economici HobbyKing 929MG HobbyKing 939MG secondo voi andranno bene?http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/images /em_rolleyes.gif
Grazie
The 929 and 939 servos are perfect fit for the Elevator, but you need slightly larger 17g servos for the Ailerons and Rudder unless you make new mounts for the smaller servos. Strength wise, the 929/939s would do the job. As for the size and placement of the battery, like any plane you'll have to play with location to get the right CoG. Start by placing the battery so you have a nose heavy CoG then start moving it back until you find a CoG that suits your flying style.
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I 929 e 939 servi sono perfetti per l'ascensore, ma è* necessario un po 'più* grandi servi 17g per gli alettoni e timone a meno che non fai nuovi supporti per i più* piccoli servi. Forza saggio, le 929/939s farebbe il lavoro. Per quanto riguarda le dimensioni e il posizionamento della batteria, come ogni aereo dovrete giocare con la posizione per ottenere il CoG destra. Iniziare posizionando la batteria in modo da avere un ingranaggio naso pesante poi cominciare la marcia indietro fino a trovare un ingranaggio che si adatta al vostro stile di volo.
Thinking about getting this plane. In other threads you mentioned beefed up the landing gear. Can you post a photo of what you did?
For Servos:
3 HS-82 MG servos for ailerons/rudder
2 HS-65 MG servos for elevator
Thoughts on the servo choice?
Kellyann...the next flight is here...T'day I rebuilt and recovered the area the undercarriage break damaged. Used sitka spruce and 3mm ply this time. The makers engineer and planner probably had a good idea of the L/G fail, before they sell them. The logic is...? But see the rough landing on my second flight that day.
Only the l/g mount. Popped loose. I tried adding the YouTube link to the l/g break video. I can only upload one. Kellyann, this aircraft is well built, but for that one area. If you're flying the Votec, I recommend a little help there.
Please guys may I know how she went. I am looking at buying one. I am not sure weather to buy here or my home warehouse (AUS). Have you crashed (I HOPE NOT). If so is it easy to repair.
good to see you Pair Now Hear at this Point ,.allison , kellann, good flying .. will you be both out flyimg then together next ,.lol happy and good day ,
With my setup, a 5055 600kv , 4 cell, I get with a wattmeter Watt's Up .. 48.59 amps / 15.39 volts, 747.8 watts, on a 14 x 7 Hobbyking apc-e prop. Gonna put a genuine apc prop on next
I have included some comments in the review section. The pic is uploaded to files, as well. Lightness is key. my 4aH 4cell 40c is about the max. 5055 motor had to move the firewall back 8 mm. a 42-48 of good power would be better. I think having the high power motor in is better for my flying skills. Lots more to come, I have to mount the seros tonight.
My 35-48 Turnigy 1100kv was decent on 4 cell but it burns at 700 watts. I had it in a CMP Cessna 182 40 size fiberglass. The 5055 and 5 cell 5800 was twice the thrust. Never used more than 1/2 to take off, and 1/4 to 1/3 throttle for cruising. The Votec is very light, 4.5 pounds or 2 kilo size. A 2200 5 cell would be 4.2 pounds but 'very' short flight, maybe 2 minutes. I'm using a 4 amp/hour 4 cell 40C, and 14x7 apc-e prop. clearance in for a 15" prop. The 14x7 has no problem, and the 13x6.5 on it now has 2" or better clearance with the nose straight, tailwheel up off the ground. 85 amp controller is fine, stays cool with the heatsink on it. It's a Turnigy TZ-85a. wish I could put the url.
The one Ian used, the 4248 NTM is best choice, so a 3548 will make the firewall, cowl measurement. My 5055 had to be moved back 8mm. I have 1mm clearance on the spinner backplate. The stock firewall (motor mount) location is for 48mm motors (length)
yes well if you seam to get much bigger its a very expence this to fuel with battery isnt it , as i just got a 6s 40c at only 59 shipped ,, so wow , arnt they not cheap so yes combining 11.1,s i has bean doing and that works geart , charging faster that way also very cool .
Ian in the You Tube video states that the model is designed around the SK3 motor yet other motors are offered. Why is this and what is the recommended SK3 motor?
Turnigy Aerodrive SK3 - 4250-500kv Brushless Outrunner Motor
500kv for 5 cell. about 1.3 kilowatt.
300 watt per pound, 4 pounds, 1200 watts.
3D is overpowered aircraft, with high watt per weight. Typical trainers this size fly nice on 100 watts per pound. ( 220 watts per kilogram )
Ian on the Skunkwerks video on Youtube was rather non-descript. The aircraft is an experienced pilot plane, and alot is 'assumed' by modellers with alot of time in building and flying.
Many thanks drdiscus. Ian of HK provided the following set-up data:
NTM 42-48 650kV 42 series accessory pack
Turnigy Nanotech 5000mAh 5s 45-90C
Turnigy Plush 60A ESC
Master Airscrew 13x8 propeller
Hope this is of assistance to others who like this aircraft.
Ian set up the Votec very well indeed. My advice is, buy the NTM 4248 650 because I was almost a pound heavier. I had the Turnigy motor and had to use it to save on money. I sport fly mostly, and I can practice hover at a high altitude and see it fine. Alot of aircraft to grow into for me.
I have one on the way. my ship charges were 52.14 usd and the total cost for the aircraft was very reasonable for what it is. I can concur, alot of 3d planes I've owned need to address the landing gear issue, and me, I'll be adding in two maple rails, running fore-aft at least as long as 10cm (carbon fiber expensive ) Looks to me like the wing leading edge is not round, but comes to a sharp point, and the vertical fin and rudder have a flat section. I have a Turnigy 50-55 600kv motor, 100 amp Superbrain esc and 5800 mah 5 cell 30c going into it. A lot of power for this plane, but I don't have anything else compatible.
Deffinately. 4 cell 2650 or maybe 5 cell 2200. Go wtiht the lighter of the two esc's (85 and 100amp, I mean) and swing a 14X7. A lot of people said there wasn't enough clearance with a 14X7 on the Moneyshot, but then again, compare the length of the struts to the moneyshot. This one appears at least an inch higher off the ground and was probably meantfor a 14X7 anyways.
ALWYAS SET UP A 3D PLANE AS LIGHT AS POSSIBLE!!! It's just a general rule of thumb. It will also help your thrust to weight ratio, since you won't need as much thrust with a lighter plane.
I will not be using the maple rails...l/g plate is rather strong. I widened the servo cutouts for the 17 gram originals on rudder, and ailerons. I widened them to accept GWS Park HPX. The two elevator servos, one on each section, servo cutouts fit 12 gram metal gear 919 high speed digital Corona, and I'm about to mount the esc. some pics tonight
At least it appears to be light. It looks more like another one of HK's "3D" planes that doesn't come close to doing anything but sport, but who knows, maybe there will be a Christmas miracle!
I hope I'm set for the year, but I'm not so sure. I got all excited when I heard "airfoiled tail surfaces" but when I saw the servos they suggested, there was no further need to look. You need much larger servos for 3D than 12.5 gram servos. They are fine for sport, but since that's all you'll be doing..........
Wow. I just watched the video. Freaking amazing! Only thing that I found curious was that the one in the video has a white spinner. If you look at the pictures, it clearly shows that this one comes with a red spinner.
Who knows? Maybe there is hope yet for this one. The reason I wrote it off as a sport flier because of how heavy it is comparred to the moneyshot. Compare the flying weights. I believe in HK. I'm not one of the HK haters like you'll find on the 3D section of rc groups. I do however, believe in a lightweight airplane.
Yeah, I know. It's just so light! I do, however, like how unique this model is. It's not just your average Edge, Extra, or Yak. I'd never even heard of a "votec" until I saw this plane!
torque roll you are correct at that. She is a looker. I think I will put her on the list of new planes for this year. If you like I can tell you how she goes!!. thanks any way.
torque roll...great suggestion on keeping the Votec light. I am NOT using the big 5800 5 cell. It fits but WAY overkill. I had the move firewall back 8mm to bring the 5055 to the cowl. The CG with my servos is on the thickest part of the wing, and maybe move the CG back for 3D. What do you think? I'll file a pic of the airfoil, ok?
Wow. No offense, but that sounds pretty heavy. Don't get me wrong, that's about .6 kg lighter than it would've been with the other electronics you mentioned. try to keep it under 2.0kg as much as you can. It will thank you with better performance if you do.
i learnt 3 d with a few Money shot , I got now in 2 wrecks to rebuild , as I found the tail Very weak , in all of them , as bothe went the same way , Tail snaped of , elevator in 2 bits , every time .
Does not sound correct if you plug the numbers:
Wingspan 1400mm = 140cm = 14dm. It would mean an *average* chord size of: 62.4 dm^2 / 14 dm ws = 4.45dm or 44.5cm. Meaning the average chord would be ~1/3 of the fuselage length (139cm) if 62.4 was right. (Assuming it was a typo, 42.6 dm2 would be more reasonable, giving a ~30cm average chord. Still only a wild guess from my side)
Herofromzero is probably used to glow plane ARFs with fuselages that are made with slabs of balsa and no lightening holes. These have a lot of (balsa?) light ply, and must look like Swiss cheese to him.
The usual fraws with these types of planes are: Too weak landinggear ,a big slob of epoxy will solve that. and it would'nt hurt with four 3-4mm sticks of carbonfiber that goes from the front of where the engine sits to the edges of the frame(one in every corner). also I personally am not a big fan of wires to the rudder and so on, I prefer servos mounted in the rear, but thats just my opinion..
"Too weak landing gear" Just about every plane I've ever owned had weak landing gear. I always reinforce the gear attachment point with carbon tow and/or chopped carbon, plus epoxy of course. The point about tying the engine mount from the front to the fuselage bulkhead is a very good idea. I'd probably use tow instead of carbon 'sticks.' I use tow that is very loosely woven with nylon thread in order to hold all the tow straight. It's stronger and far less messy. I always replace those rudder wires with carbon rod run inside the wire sheaths, though I do like tail mounted servos myself. Keep it simple. All this is moot for me though, until it reaches the USA warehouse.
looks like elevator stab is airfoiled, thats nice. overall i like the shape, size and color scheme of this plane.....too bad shiping to canada is a buzz killer. HK please do something to keep these shipping charges more reasonable.
OMG > many complain of strength in landing gear ,,I think they better learn to land there plane softly , it makes for a better approach. >after i learn the hard way as well,
Brian, not everyone can fly off a smooth tarmac runway or even a smooth grass field. I used to fly glow planes at a polo field, and the divots made by the horses hooves were enough to challenge the best landing gear.
Complaints about landing gear are bogus because you can't determine that by looking at a photo. The gear looks fine. Depending on what it is made of and how it is attached it may or may not be adequate. If there is a problem it is most likely in the mounting which is usually easy to reinforce.
The gear must suit the landing field if grassdy and rough remove the pants and put 70-90mm gws plastic wheels on it will handle any field then even horsed ones *}
ps i put these wheels (90mm)on my P-51 1.2m and now no nose overs and the wheels sit flush against the wings underside when gear up :}}
BrianB192, I'm just saying, check it BEFORE it breaks because it's usually too weak. Soft landings BAH ,like that would help on grass. Happened more than once that the engine broke loose on similar looking constructions at my field. NEVER happened to my extreme flight plane. SO I use the vanquish as reference for how things should look.
"NEVER happened to my extreme flight plane. SO I use the vanquish as reference for how things should look." Which illustrates what I said. The landing gear on the Vanquish looks very similar to the Voted in photos.
They all do(almost) :-) We'll just have to buy it and fly the **** out of it, in fact I think I'll do just that. I hope it's reinforced with glassfibre. but I think I'll go with an os engine or scorpion hmm.
HK's NTM motors are well above average too.
I can't ever see myself going back to glow power. Messy, expensive fuel, loud**no thanks. But then I live in a city, as well. With electric I can fly a mile from downtown Minneapolis. The glow fields are all out in the boonies.
glow would probably be good in this plane but persoally i'd stick a 6s 2200 zippy and a 500kv motor for some insane power, as for the landing gear - easy fix for any plane if it needs it - very thin gauge piano wire (nusic wire) from the motor mout through the cowling attached to each landing gear leg (about half way down) will be almost ivisible, no weight added, and strong as hell.
The plywood holding the mounting plate for the l/g is 2mm. The rails and stringers are balsa. A review of another flyer would be nice, but I've built and flown the Votec. I started to build design and fly in 1978, and as a boy built free flight stick and tissue. Take that for what it's worth. I'm a great pilot, know how to land, flaring the elevator and pushing the throttle up a little. I can land a plane. The gear legs are very long. A moment arm of considerable torque. The mounting plate is poorly designed.
I agree with drdiscus. I bought this plane. The actual landing gear is not the issue here, but the landing gear attach point. the bottom stringers that the landing gear attach point is mounted on are 3/16inch square balsa. Anybody in their right mind could see it wouldn't hold up. You have to understand that the forces on your landing aren't strictly up and down. When landing on a grass field or rough surface you have friction and obstacles placing rearward pressure on your landing gear and the longer that landing gear is, the more pressure it will place on the attach point in a pivoting motion. The attach point needs to be strong in this case.
Here's a video of my maiden flight. I didn't have someone to record for me so I went with an onboard cam. Also, if anyone is interested in buying this plane, it doesn't seem to come with instructions so I made some and put them in the Files tab above. Hope they help. :)
Dumb question, but how does Kellyann receive 4 credits for a plane she does not have, and has never flown. It's red white and blue, there, can I have a credit too?
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initially, just got the shipment, a few concerns. Built 'extremely' light. Soft points. Hatch frame needed a quick repair, in shipping the tie point was damaged, and there was sticky in one side of the fuselage wing tube. The aluminum wing spar had to be 'encouraged' through. Beautiful big plane. More comments on build and flying. 4 cell 4000 40c or 5 cell 2200 40c.
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I removed the firewall, and epoxied in a ply firewall, moving back 8 mm. Then the C5055 650 fit to the cowl, and prop and spinner have the proper clearance. The discussion page guys, are right, about lightness. The 4000mah 4Cell 40C fits, has enough juice, and balance should come in nicely, once the servos are mounted for the tail. There were no included instructions of any kind. I'll add pictures of the firewall upon further building. I'll be removing the cowling and spinner to install the ESC. I'll take pics then.
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Having flown, the Votec, I feel like it's alot of airplane for me to grow into. It will knife edge only on the highest rates, 3.25" throw on the rudder, each way, with alot of throttle. I have the CG at 95mm from the leading edge at the wing root. It has to be moved back. My Votec weighs 5 pounds 3 ounces. 2.36 kilograms. I used a heavy motor and battery. Turnigy 5055 600kv and 4000 mah 4s Zippy 40c Lipoly. The weight desired is 4 pounds 8 ounces. 11 ounces lighter. So I sacrifice 3D ability for sport power. The aircraft cooperates to commands very well. I recommend reinforcing the landing gear mount, and for grass fields, it's a must, unless it's light, and you are a very experienced and capable 3D pilot, which I fall short of. The Votec 322 is a joy to fly, easy to build, and I will respect the airframe as log as I can, it's my favorite aircraft, and I hope to put alot of time on it.
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very cool
my configuration is
ntm 4248
13x8
Turnigy 70A
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two micro hk 939MG servo for elevator
two Hitec HS-82MG aileron
Hitec HS-485HB rudder
Now I have to mix with Turnigy 9x elevetor
how to mix the radio?
I ask your help
thanks
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First off, I just want to thank HobbyKing and their manufacturers for thinking we're all advanced master builders, hence the lack of instructions I'm sure. ;)
None the less, first impressions of this plane were that it was nicely built and finished and this impression stayed with me throughout the build. My cowling was slightly malformed during shipping with a dent in the top center but I was able to straighten it out somewhat. So I suggest to HobbyKing to look into a better method to pack the cowling.
The only other drawback to this model is the split Elevators, they are never fun to set up. On first go I tried using a Turnigy Signal Reverser, PID: SIG-REV, and it proved too unreliable. So it manually reversed the polarity on one of the elevator servos. It would be much simpler if HobbyKing would set up there Elevators like the wings, have a tube go through the fuselage and the elevator halves joined with a carbon tube. My 2 cents.
Excellent build altogether though, enjoyed it thoroughly. I should mention this is my first Balsa/Ply plane as I've been flying the foam birds until now.
Even with a 3000mAh battery CoG is a little nose heavy, so you have to extend the battery tray aft to get a more lively CoG setting. I would say a good CoG range is between 90mm and 110mm from the leading edge of the wing root.
I did beef up the landing gear area as suggested by drdiscus. I us
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I have one on the way. my ship charges were 52.14 usd and the total cost for the aircraft was very reasonable for what it is. I can concur, alot of 3d planes I've owned need to address the landing gear issue, and me, I'll be adding in two maple rails, running fore-aft at least as long as 10cm (carbon fiber expensive 
) Looks to me like the wing leading edge is not round, but comes to a sharp point, and the vertical fin and rudder have a flat section. I have a Turnigy 50-55 600kv motor, 100 amp Superbrain esc and 5800 mah 5 cell 30c going into it. A lot of power for this plane, but I don't have anything else compatible. 
