I originally purchased a 18/20A esc for this motor based on 160W *11.1V being a draw of 14 amps. I see from the instructions they recommend a 30A esc for all motors in the D2822 range (102W - 260W). Do I really need to get a 30A esc or am I ok with my 18A/20A?
Hi Mark, You'll be fine with a 18A/20A ESC. I run this motor with a 3S and 8x3.8SF prop on a HK BlueSeries 20A ESC and draw approx. 15A current. The manuals for the AeroDrive series of motors are often a bit slack in providing detailed data for each specific motor. I just go by the rated watts to get the ESC amps and add 20%-25% just to be safe. Cheers, EA!
Hi Curtis, This motor would fly the Bixler-2 as a glider, but it wouldn't have much power to spare. If you plan to do any sort of sport/aerobatic flying, which the Bixler-2 is fully capable of, you will want a more powerful high-kV motor that's meant to run a 6 or 7 inch prop. Most people are changing their Bixlers and Bixler-2s over to the D2826-6/2200kV (PRODUCT ID: D2826-62200) which has gobs of power on a 6x5 or 7x4 prop. Cheers, EA!
Take EA's advice, he told me to do the same and he was 100% correct. This is a sweet motor and I purchased the 20A H Blue Series as he advised and there were no issues, and I ended up buying more HK Blues for my other planes. By far the easiest ESC to set up I have ever had plus they are programmable.
Yeah I really appreciated your help. I have a q for you. I saw your vid on the Yak54. Was thinking of buying that plane and using this motor with it and a 30A HKB Esc. This motor should work well with it I would assume.
Hi roco, This motor is too small for the Yak54, as its AUW is well over 500g. This motor would fly it, but you wouldn't have the punch for any serious aerobatics/3D. The plane I would stronly suggest is the Reaktor EPP 3D. That's the plane I use this motor on and the combination is awesome! The Reaktor is a much better-flying plane than the Yak54. Floats along at walking speed, hovers almost hands-off, and will do neck-snapping 3D moves. It's the plane I fly 90% of the time. Cheers, EA!
Thanks EA, I purchased the Reaktor & necessary equip this morning from the USA warehouse so hopefully I'll have it with in a week, was looking at that HK2312 too, think I'll pick that up as a back up, I seem to like the way this motor works with my GWS slow stick, lots of power.
Hi roco, I used the HK2312 as my original motor on the Reaktor, 3 of them actually. They have great power for such a small motor, but they wear/burn out quickly which is why I switched to the D2822/14. If you're looking for a small (24g-30g) motor with lots of power, get the HK2314. It held up much better than the HK2312. Cheers, EA!
Hi Crash, What you're describing sounds like it might be too large/heavy for this motor on a 2S. On a 3S with a 8x4 or 8x5 prop you can expect approx. 700g of thrust which may be enough for your trainer. Cheers, EA!
Thanx! Would you advise instick with this setup or maybe use a slightly larger motor, i really dont want it to be too fast just a regular trainer, also what battary pack should i go for? 1300mah 3s would be fine? or too heavy?
Hi Crash, Without knowing how heavy the all-up weight of your finished plane will be it's hard to advise you on whether this motor is powerful enough. Generally speaking, the motor on a trainer should have thrust equal to 75% or more of all-up weight, so this motor on a 3S would be good for up to 900g-950g. You will probably be close to that weight based on the 1m wingspan soyou could go with this motor or the D2830-11 (PRODUCT ID: D2830-111000) which puts out close to 900g of thrust. Both motors would run great on a 1300mah/3S. Cheers, EA!
Hi electric aussie im very new to the business thanks for your advice,now i have a motor that left agood trail of smoke its prob s**** as i only have 9x6 folding prop on a 45mm spinner what motor would you put behind it in a walrus using a 3cell with a 35 amp esc? As i only have 3c batteries.
Hi guys need some help im using this motor with 3 cell in a walrus trying to get prop comb right original prop cracked tried 10x6 9x6 both folding nothing else fits 45mm spinner get magic smoke 5 mins into flight getting to hot to many amps any ideas please ?
Hi Mark, You need to limit the prop size to 8x4 or smaller on a 3S. Anything larger will just cause the motor to run hot ... or worse. Drill the prop to fit the prop adapter, it won' hurt the prop. Cheers, EA!
EA how many amps will this motor pull with a 3s and 8x4 prop.. i know you might have answered this somehwere but i forgot ? Is their any disadvantage of using a bigger ESC than recomended else than weight issues ?
Hi Mar11, With a 8x4 prop on a 3S you can expect to draw approx. 15A. I run this motor on my Reaktor with a 20A HK BlueSeries ESC and that combo has been bullet-proof. The thing I love about the BlueSeries line of ESCs is the auto-timing feature. They're completely plug'n'play. The firmware in the ESC calculates the most efficient timing-setting for rpms vs. power consumption and sets the timing accordingly. I generally pick an ESC with at least a 20% safety margin for the motor and servo (BEC circuit) power consumption to ensure it doesn't run hot. I crashed one of my Reaktors using a 12A ESC. The BEC circuit fried and the Rx suddenly had no power. It wasn't pretty. Cheers, EA!
Hi Joerund, I have 5-6 BlueSeries ESCs on various 3D planes and I have the little programming card, but I haven't had to use it more than once or twice. The BlueSeries ESCs are very much plug'n'play because of the auto-timing feature and the factory settings pretty much match what I would program in anyways. Cheers, EA!
Ok. I have 3 blueseries/mystery esc's. And all came like it says in the specifications. With default soft acceleration. 1 sec slow ramp up speed. I am not able to get hard acceleration on any of mine esc's. Tried both programming card and transmitter programming. I am able to program brake and rotation. I havn't tried playing around with governor, timing or anything. I don't like the soft acceleration on my airplanes.
Hi Edgar, Because of the relatively high kV rate, a 8x6 prop has just a bit too much pitch for this motor on a 3S. I'm using the same prop as VTCCU suggested, an 8x3.8, and the motor never runs hot yet it develops heaps of thrust for such a tiny motor. I tried a 8x5 once and the motor ran too warm but gave no more thrust than I got from the 8x3.8. Cheers, EA!
160watts, 11.1volts max
I use a 30 amp because I had one available, however I would recommend a 20A so you are well within the limits of your equipment.
***Feel free to correct my maths if I have made an error***
9x4.7 will work great, just make sure the motors don't heat up too much . I have these on my quad with 20amp turnigy multistars and the motor was barely warm after 15 min of casual flying.. Hope this helps, Mike
Hello everybody, I just bought ' of these and they work great, but like most motors, the power distribution is not linear. Is there any advanced datasheet information such as the power distribution curve, heat curve, etc.?
The simple datasheet found here was of no help...
Hi Raphael, They are the same size, but the internal windings are different. It's very common to 2 or 3 different kV versions of the same motor with different wattage ratings for each. In this case, the 1450kV motor is rated 160W and the 1100kV motor is only rated 102W. The watts is the key to how much thrust to expect from a motor, as watts is the electrical equivalent of how much work the motor can do. I get 650g-700g of thrust from this (1450kV) motor on a 8x3.8SF prop. I would expect no more than 400g-450g of thrust from the 1100kV motor. Cheers, EA!
EA, thank you for you answer. One more question: would a 18amp SS hobbyking ESC bear this motor with a 8x4 prop and a 3s bat? I have this setup in my tricopter, but with a 2822/17 motor. I need more power to lift more weight, but I'm afraid those 18amp ESCs don't bear this motor.
Hi Raphael, A 18A ESC is fine for this motor. I run a 20A HK BlueSeries ESC and it's never warm after a flight. Max amps this motor will draw with a 8x4 prop on a 3S is approx. 15A, so you have a good safety margin with a 18A ESC. Cheers, EA!
Hi Mar11, I give up on Google Translate. By the time I paste it into a post it's just a scrambled mess. Anyway, what I said was I know you're trying to help, but I don't worry about whether people credit me or not. A simple thanks is enough. It's the people who don't respond in any way that annoy me. So shukran and Cheers, EA!
Hi Robin, Yes the recommended prop (7x4.5 on a 3S) is a 2-blade. For a quad you're limited to the 3-blade counter-rotating props that are available. Going from a 2-blade to a 3-blade, you would need to reduce the length or reduce the pitch from 7x4.5, so a 6x4.5 (PRODUCT ID: 157000036) would be the likely choice. Cheers, EA!
Hi Manmohan, The minimum size ESC you should use would be 15A, but a 20A is a better choice as it would never run hot. I'm using the HK BlueSeries 20A. It's been bullet-proof for me and is basically a plug'n'play ESC. It has an auto-timing feature that sets the motor timing to the best balance between power consumption vs. power output. Cheers, EA!
Hi Manmohan, Running a 8x3.8SF on a 850mah/3S w/20A ESC I'm getting approx. 650g-700g and flight time of about 8 minutes. You could get a little more thrust with a bigger prop but overheating might become an issue. Cheers, EA!
Hi David, I haven't used this on a quad, but fly it every day on a 3D plane. Running a 8x3.8SF on a 850mah/3S w/20A ESC. Thrust is approx. 650g and flight time is about 6 minutes. On a quad set-up, you could use either the 8x3.8 or 7x4 prop. Bit more thrust with the 8x3.8, but longer flight times with the 7x4. A 3000mah/3S running 4 of these should get at least 6 minutes of aggressive flying and 8-9 minutes of mild 1/2-2/3 throttle flying. Cheers, EA!
I have this on 2 quads and they carry a very good punch, both have 4x 20amp esc with 8x4.5 props and my wattmeter shows 30a/4 on one quad and 40a/4 in the other quad, i set the ESC on one to low timing and have a out of this world punch thats the one running at 40a/4 remember the wattmeter reads all4motors at once so 40a/4 will be 10a per motor
Today experienced this motor to 1000mm Wing 7 * 6 propeller. It flies straight up with no restrictions. Yes wing weight is 450 grams. Prior to buy three of the same motor with a 20amp Multistar. 8 * 4 propellers 2.0kk control board. Thanks for the advice, it really helped.
Hi Lasse, If you're building the first 3 swappables (nutball, FT flyer and delta, maybe also old fogey) you're gonna be fine with this set up, however, if you want to move up, and build the baby blender, fowl flyer, FT3D, you're gona have to move up to 3s and perhaps a 8x3.8 SF prop as ElectricAussie said.
Hi twan, The 9x4.7SF is only a little "heavier" than an 8x6, so it will be fine on a 2S, but definitely not a 3S. The recommended prop sizes shown above are usually based on peak efficiency. When you go with a larger prop you will get more thrust but it will be at a cost of more heat and shorter flight time. Because the 9x4.7 is such a small step up from the 8x6 it shouldn't be a problem. I run a 8x3.8SF on a 3S which is the same sort of step up from the recommended 7x4.5 and I haven't had any problems. The performance is awesome and the motor has been bullet-proof. Cheers, EA!
Hi Lasse, Thanks for the credit. If you already have the 8x4.5SF prop you could use it with a 3S on this motor, but it will make the motor run very warm if you push it hard. I run a 8x3.8SF prop on 3S and it's a great combination for 3D flying. Cheers, EA!
Thank you! You earned your credit! im going to use this in a light foam model. I dont know if you have heard of flitetest on youtube? im going to build their swappable series :) so im gonna go for 2s and 8x4,5
I found the Blue series 20A and placed my order, can't wait for everything to arrive so I can go fly. Unfortunately, I didn't receive the later reply regarding the HK stick mount, maybe I can have them amend my order? We'll see, thanks again EA!
Yeah, Contact them straight away and you should be able to add it. There may even be a provision for doing that from your order page. Go to "View My Account" and click on Check Orders. Read thru all the stuff below the items list and it should walk you thru the process. Cheer, EA!
Thank you, Elec. Aussie for your valued input. I will look for a 8x3.8SF prop to go with this motor, and thanks for the heads up on prefabbing the bulkhead to mount the motor. Now if I can find a HK blue 20A in stock it will be settled, if not I may just have to go with a red brick.
Hi roco, Thanks for the credit. Not sure if you're ordering from the US warehouse or HK International, but the BlueSeries 20A and Mystery 20A (same ESC, just different labels) are both available from HK International. Myself, I would spend the extra few bucks rather than use a Red Brick which is a bargain basement ESC. Cheers, EA!
Hi Roco, Not sure what size the square tubing is on you Slow Stick, but if by chance it's 10mm you might want to have a look at HK's stick mount (PRODUCT ID: AT-6308, $2) which could be easily used as a firewall for this motor. Cheers, EA!
Great little motor
i use it with a 8*3.8 Sf prop, 16-18Amp ESC and a 2s battery the ESC get a little bit warm, no problem I use it on my S-3 Weight: 350g Can go straight up with no problem, Motor get a little bit warm That's all! i think this baby can pull about 550 g (manual)