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This ARF includes a motor, and prop w/ prop saver. Just include your own receiver, servos, ESC and battery to be flight ready in next to no time! There has never been a better way to practice low 3D flight than with HobbyKing's new range of EPP planes.
Is PRODUCT *ID: 9329000024 (Slow Fly Electric Prop 9047 SF) or PRODUCT *ID: 017000056 (8045 SF Props) a good replacement prop for this Piaget that will stay on the pro shaft securely with the prop saver? Thanks in advance
These pieces have a groove into which only the fine wire fits and a small hole in one end - again, only the fine wire seems to fit. I cannot find a use for these pieces, nor can I see them in the instructions. In the HK video the fine wire is used to connect servos and I do not see these pieces. Can anyone enlighten me as to their purpose/use?
Thanks, in advance,
Dave
ps: I think they may have been included to drive me mad :)
They are used to connect the pushrod (fine wire) to the control horn. You bend the pushrod 90 degrees at the end so it fits into that hole and it clips around the control horn.
My Piaget just came with a HobbyKing 2614 Brushless Outrunner 2000KV. I tried running it on a half dead 2S and a 5x4.5SF prop and it drew 17A and the motor overheated. Is this the normal motor for the piaget? And any idea what the best prop size would be, I'm thinking of trying a 4.75 inch
Oops, sorry, I meant a Slow Fly Electric Prop 8045R SF (4 pc) prop. It ran at 17A at 7.2 volts and the motor was overheating. Too much prop for this motor on 2S
I am seriously disappointed in the motor supplied with my Piaget. The 9x5 GWS prop supplied with it runs at 19A on 2S and makes the motor overheat within 10 or 15 seconds. I've bench tested the motor with a 30A hobbywing ESC and 8x4.5 SF prop, using a servo tester and wattmeter to regulate the input to various power levels. I found that even running at only 10A on a 2S lipo (which was only about half throttle) the motor STILL gets too hot to hold your finger on after 60 seconds of static operation.
Is my motor a dud or are they all like this?
I think you are badly under estimating how much thrust the 2614 puts out it shoud hover this plane at less lhan half throtle with an 8x4 prop. You are correct you cannot fly this motor full throtle continous it will overheat, BUT the plane will also be fluttering and torque bending at that power level. Fly about half throtle and use short blips to change direction or go vertical. Prop this motor to hover the plane about half throtle and only use full in short bursts and you should be ok.
The motor included in the pack is pretty dissapointing.its better to have one extra on hand.mine burned out and fell from the sky mid flight.at 2s maybe use a 9inch 2 bladed??
motor change. This plane now supplied with tech one 2050KV motor in USA. 2050KV motors produce too much heat on 3 cell. I don't recomend using the 9" prop, use 8x3.8sf on 2 cell.
wow, 20 hours? that sounds a lot!
but i guess that if you want a perfect build, you must spend some time with the little details, so it kind of makes sense.
Thanks for the credit :)
The reason it takes so long is that NOTHING is pre-assembled. You just get sheets of foam with the the shapes cut out. You have to hinge all the control surfaces, glue everything together (taking care keep it all square), install all the carbon fiber supports (again, keeping it all square), install landing gear, motor, control horns, make the pushrods from CF and piano wire and only THEN is it at the ARF stage of only needing the ESC, servos, battery and radio.
Like I said, it's a BIG project.
i suggest using a 500mah 3cell lipo forlighter longer flight perfect 3d power and balance! this will work with current set up 10amp esc hope i could help. remember to credit the best answers. tommy
a 2 cell 800mah would be perfect, I don't think the ESC/motor can handle a 3 cell. I fly mine with a 2cel 800mah and it works perfect, and a 2 cell is light too. The C rating doesn't really matter. I use a turnigy 20C 800mah lipo, product ID: T800L.2S.20
hope this helped
Perfect prop with stock engine is this:
SF E-Prop 8x3.8 / 203x96.5mm w/ Adapters Black www.link 2S lipo my piaget hovers at half throttle. running it on a 12A esc and 850mah 2S lipo.
Not even warm :-)
don't worry about it, you can't burn your motor if the wires aren't correct. If your motor turns in the oposite direction, than you'll have to swap 2 random wires and the motor will spin in the right direction. Hope this helps
I own four Piagets. One is beyond repaired while learning to do inverted harrier. This EPP plane is capable of all the tricks. And because of its light weight design, if you don’t panic then most of the time the damage is minimum.
yes i can do 3D, i enjoyed flying it until the motor burnt, the information above is wrong, the motor is a 2100kv on 2s battery, it flew very well, everyone should check what motor comes with it, altho i think they will all get a 2100kv 2s, replacement motor just delivered today so should enjoy it next week :)
This is a very light plane and it should be flown with a 2s pac, a light 12amp ESC... I went even lighter, with a 10amp ESC. My servos are only 5grams each. Since I use only a 2s, I chose a 900mah pac, so she flies long, but still light. The description says you'll be in the air in "no time" NOT!!! lol.
WARNING - be careful which motor they send you, above it says a 1100kv and 3s batt, they sent me a 2100kv and it burned out, just went to order another and its only rated at 2s not 3! dont know which one would be better now, the 2100 on 2 or 1400 on 3...
I got a couple of 3s 850 mAh lipos, but a lot of people are saying 3s is too much for the recommended 18a ESC with the stock prop the kit comes with...- and saying 8x4 gws style prop will be better...can anyone share a product code for a suitable prop on the HK site that fits the prop shaft please? Also I have some 1000 mAH 2s lipos lying around- will they be suitable? Is 2s still enough power for 3d flying or will only 3s lipos give enough power for 3d or if both are uitable for 3d, why use 3s? Thanks in advance!
Try a GWS 8 by 4.3 RD prop.RD or reduction drive is a slow fly prop for GWS.8 by 4DD just doesn't have the same amount of thrust at slower speeds. PRODUCT ID: GWS-RD-8043
Wires from motor go to the 3 wires coing from ESC. If the prop turns the spins in reverse,switch any of two of the three wires going to ESC and the prop will turn the other way.
hey aaron2233, sorry i should have said that i was gettin major flutter throughout the entire airframe from the control surfaces.. not the engine.. its tight as.. thanx for the assistance though..
CHAMBO88 I had to put a 30mm gusset all four corners of the body (for the full length of the body) this add a little weight. But it now flies smooth and responds to all commands. I hope this helps
Is it really safe to run a 3s with a 18A ESC and the stock motor? is this a good battery for it
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__18203_ _Turnigy_nano_tech_850mAh_3S_45_90C_Lipo_Pack.html
o r is it to big?
should I just stick to a 2s?
it's a little too large,
the recommended battery size for this is
2s - 610mah to 1300mah
3s- 610mah to 1000mah,
anything larger and heavier than that, the plane flies rather sluggishly, assuming your using the stock tech-one motor
There is no place for it to "fit", it just goes on the side of the plane. So anything will fit, but you have to consider weight and center of gravity. With mine, 3s 800mah was perfect.
Instructions can be found under the files tab. As for the motor... well that sucks. You should get some store credit if not a refund. however with that said my motor burnt out after 5min running it on a 3s 800mah so i have had to order a replacement. This motor does not like 3s so perhaps the motor jumped out of the box and ran away because it didn't want to burn up in flames???
Go to home page of hobbyking (button on top) and then on the right side check the option to select a motor by size. It doesn't matter what you enter to begin with. This will show you a list of motors and some options to make a finer selection on top. Set it to 3d and add the correct weight and you'll get a lot of valid suggestions. Choose by power.
OrangeRx Futaba FASST Compatible 8Ch 2.4Ghz Receiver is a great small sized and light receiver which is also compatible with your Tx.So yeah i reccomend this one.
No it will fit good and this is a big plane you wont have any problem with the orange receiver as long as you make sure you have placed it in a place that is not affecting the CG.
Do you think I could get away with a 2812 or a 2822 motor 7x6 prop 1300 3 cell lipo with this plane I have alot of the above parts and looking to find something I can fly in my BIG back yard or give me a idea what would be a good choice?( I want low and slow ) I thought about the EPP yak 54 also HELP lol Thanks
I posted this on the wrong page I went back and forth between so many plane's I forgot where I was LOL The above post was for the YAK-54 EPP sorry.I wish there was a way to remove this things.lol
My piaget motor burned out IT CAN`T HANDLE 3S. I`ve replaced to 2205C 1400Kv Brushless motor it can handle 3s and give 10a with 9050 slow flyer prop. I`ve used it fod 3d.
no need for a larger motor on this plane, it starts to vibrate and shudder A LOT at speed so it should be considered a slowflier only, no point in adding more power.
My Piaget came with a HobbyKing 2614 Brushless Outrunner 2000KV and on the stock 9x5 prop it pulls 19-20amps and will fry the motor quite easily. I would rate this motor for no more than 10a continuous, beyond that it just gets too hot!
I think the best prop choice is a 7 inch slowflier, but even then you can't hold it on WOT because the motor will still overheat
the motor of my Piaget burned out, it can't handle 3s with the original prop, thats what made it die
anybody know what is the part number for a replacement motor?
or the equivalent, I really liked the performance of the original motor but can't seem to find the right one to replace it
excellent kit made of 5mm EPP. parts fit excellent. Nice building-instruction provided. motor/prop combo is unusable: Motor runs good on 2S Lipo with a 8x3,8 prop, providing adequate power for this plane. 8x3,8 prop seems te be the maximum propsize this motor can handle on 2S, drawing 11 amps/78 watts. Factory-delivered 9x6 is way too much and makes it an excellent "current to heat converter" by using over 20 amps withoud adding any usable power
I have not flown a RC Plane before and have only used the realflight sim. This plane abolutely Rocks. I could fly it straight away after three flights and some trim I am rolling, looping, harriering, knife edging, sort of hovering not mastered it yet (I think there is a trick to that). 750mh 3 cell and 8x3.8 prop in strong wind works well. I used hing tape worked well with 3m 77 spray and 3m 77 spray to glue large foam surfaces together and CA with kicker for the rest. give all control surfaces maximum throw. Ordered Thursday delivered Sydney Aust on Monday. I am Very Happy THANKYOU HOBBYCITY/HOBBYKING/UNITEDHOBBIES?
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Mine is set up as follows: 3xHXT500 servos (6g), Turngiy Plush 10A ESC and Zippy Flightmax 3S 800's. Great little park flier, I flew the other day in 10-15mph winds no problem. I am running a GWS style 8x4 prop on the supplied motor and it is pulling 17A. However the Plush 10A ESC doesn't seem to mind at all as nothing comes down hot after 15 minutes. I have also flown it on a E-Flight 2S 800 barrowed from my CX2 in lighter winds and it flies jus
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Plane Arrived just 4 days after being shipped using Air Parcel ($20) The Kit was very well packaged. The EPP is excellent. The motor has plenty of power, it will hover my piaget at half throttle with a 8x4 gws prop and a Rhino 750mah 3s 20c lipo, I was originally planning on using my 3s 610mah Rhino lipo but it was sitting on the shelf for so long that one of the cells died. I just orded a 18a Simple esc (15g) and Rhino 2s 360mah & 620mah 20c
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Nice plane. Here is mine video: http://www.vimeo.com/3421101
It turned out pretty well 250g total weight with kit motor and 800mah 2S battery. 1 9g servo for ailerons and 2 5g for rudder and elev. I consider using lighter motor and 360mah bettety for indoor flying.
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