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The DFS Habicht was one of the most famous and good looking of the classic 1930's German gliders, known for it superb aerobatic capability as well is it's distinctive gullwing, it is little wonder the Habicht is such a favourite with modellers.
The H-King Habicht is packed with innovative features yet it is fast and easy to assemble, made from tough EPO foam, this attractive looking Plug and Fly glider comes with the powerful brushlessoutrunner motor, ESC and all servo's pre-installed. A novel feature is the folding prop spinner, which has been designed to allow the Habicht to retain it's scale looks when powered off, more innovation can be found at the tail end which features an all moving vertical stabilizer for excellent yaw control at any speed. The distinctive and heavily braced gull wings are plug in for fast field assembly and with no screws required, it takes seconds to attach or detach the wings.
With plenty of power on tap, the Habicht climbs fast, once at altitude and power off, the Habicht looks scale in every way, the superb flight performance comes from the heavily braced wings and horizontal stabilizer, no flex here! The servo's for all control surfaces are mounted in such a way as to keep the control rods ultra short, this gives the Habicht sharp, precise control. The Habicht is fantastic looking scale model of a classic glider that is easy to assemble and fly, it can be flown at any field and offers the RC pilot a great performing model that will really stand out from the crowd!
Features: Classic Scale Outline. Fast and Easy to Assemble. Plug and Fly, only requires Reciever and Battery to complete (not inlcuded). Innovative features such as scale spinner and all moving vertical stablilizer. Excellent Glide and aerobatic performance. Powerful Brushless Motor for excellent climb rate. Lot's of Thrust from Large 9x5 Folding Prop. Braced Horizontal Stabilizer. Steel Dihedral Brace. Novel and Fast Plug in Wing System. Large Landing Wheel and Tailskid. Heavily Braced wing offers no Flex Issues despite Gullwing.
Got mine to fly added a 4x4 peice of half inch foam on each side of the wing,and replaced the motor with a kv910.
Now it glides,and flys real slow.
I also added flaps. I had to cut the motor off and build a front end motor mount from ply.
Wish I could upload a picture here for you.
Oh yea I added a tail whell and a main gear to make it a tail drager. Still runs on a 1300 to 1800 11.1 3 cell.
I just had to get my $100:00 out of her,and I have!
Hi Dov, As per Sariel's input the difference between Mode1 and Mode2 is only the stick configuration. In Mode1 you have throttle and ailerons on right stick and rudder and elevator on left stick. Mode2 you have Aileron and Elevator on right stick and Throttle and Rudder on left stick. I fly Mode 1 and am very happy and comfortable with it as that is the way I learned, but there seems good logic to Mode 2, I am currently flying Mode 2 in the simulator so I can cross between mode1 and mode2.
Any discussion on what is best mode would probably cause arguments as to which is better, reality is what you learn with is what your brain will wire to and will work for you, and probably what you will end up calling the best :).
There are some arguments that Mode2 is better if you are planning on flying helicopters also... But there are lots of mode1 fixed wing people flying helicopters too.
If you are going to fly with friends or at a club it would make sense to go with what they fly with so you or your son will have support from them.
Good luck.
Mick.
This is a four channel rc plane so there for it requires a 4 channel radiO transmitter I.e. radio controller which costs just 22$ in the related products.
The difference between mode 1 and mode 2 is just the way he controller works, where are all the controllers, I.e thruster elevator etc. I recommend mode 2 as it is the most common out of them 2.
The difference between the batteries is just the size and power. This is made out of EPO which is a tough material which will not break that easily but is harder to fix then EPO.
Since your son lacks experience I believe you should by a flight simulator for just 15$ and practice.
In the same breath I just want to mention that this is a very good plane.
what kind of radio control do i need for the powered glider? What is the difference between mode1 & 2?
What is the difference between the types of batteries?
How breakable is it? My 14 year old son really wants it but he doesn't have much experience....
For details of how I modified the e-Habicht, I can be e-mailed for the URLs to the YouTube and the web page of the details. I highly recommend this model with the mods I performed on it. For the URLs, my e-mail is kcashion (at) charter (dot) net.
Oops! I am sorry folks, I do not have a 9-5 on my Habicht! I have an 8-5 which makes my point about being over propped even more so. However. while the larger prop (with a larger thrust disc) would give more low-speed thrust, it gains speed just fine with the 8-5.
I did get out yesterday morning to see if my modified Habicht was right. I gave it 60% power and gave it a toss into a light breeze* and the breeze stopped instantly. The Habicht went out about 6' and stopped. I was expecting a tip stall and snap roll into the ground. I gave it pull power and it accelerated away climbing like a rocket. I saw that this model is seriously over-proped as it is delivered. I have a 9-5 on mine with 1300, 3-cells, and it is faster than greased lightning. It will climb at 60 degrees and do perfect axial rolls while doing so. I got some altitude and started throttling back to check for that dreaded tip stall. I finally had power off and holding up elevator and it slowed to a near-stop and didn't drop a wing. It just let its nose flop down straight ahead and got its gliding speed back with a little loss of altitude. This is what properly designed models do. The washout wing tabs I added were working great ** apparently. Since it was doing everything I had hoped, I started zipping all over the sky trying every thing I could think of. It will fly inverted all day and climb at 20 degrees inverted with full "down." Its stall-turns are as smooth as the real Habicht. I finished the first flight making big inverted circles at 50 feet over the field. It landed smoothly 30 feet away, and as I picked it up... the landing wheel fell off. The screw axle was laying there with the wheel. ??? So yes, I have what I wanted when I bought it* a superb aerobatic, exotic glider. That is what the real one was designed for. I do not know what the manufacturer could have done on this small a model to prevents its inate problems, but I certainly have the fix for them. If you are not going to replace the empennage, you might hang it up in the ceiling to admire. It IS certainly a beautiful model of a beautiful airplane.
Thanks for the helpful comments. I am very keen to see the mentioned pictures of your modification work, but I have no idea how to access your web page. Any key words for google search that might help?
Peter, thanks for your reply. Just hang on for a bit because I am modifying it right now. I am posting the images with the video of the first flight on YouTube. I hope to have that done today. I will post back here as soon as it is viewable. In the mean time, I am at kencashion (at) charter (dot) net.
OK, I will jump right in here with some obvious observations. We all bought this model because it was cheap and danged cute! I knew it was not a thermal glider (not without killer thermals) but I wanted a cute e-model to fly around nearby and watch. (I love my HK Minimoa but I dread assembling it. Not so this Habicht with similar wing form. It will stay assembled.) The Habicht, under optimum conditions, should fly on the slopes* frizbees will soar on a slope, but the Habicht had problems, didn't it? All the problems are the result of a horrible empennage! It is near scale. This will only work on a model this size if Hobby King can come to where you fly and scale the air molecules to fit the model scale. But I am not so sure that would have worked because the drag on the empannage is so much greater than the scale drag when scale is considered. I took one look at the empannage when I got it and figured how it would fly. I went on line, and guess what? It was flying like it should, that is it was flying like the design would indicate. Models do not lie* we often have unreal expectations, however. I have seriously modified mine to correct that virtual drogue empennage. And now the paradox. We buy these models to get in the air in a hurry. We do not want to design a model and fabricate it from scratch, so many of you are stuck with this model* I have modified mine to make it right. I have been taking a lot of images during this work and will load a web page with these changes, but the fact remains* if you wanted to buy-and-fly, you have some serious problems ahead of you. If you wanted a super-cute cheap "kit" to correct, this will be a fun one. sbeesd e d mrvb
Hello Kenneth! Thank you for warning, you did a great job to have written this message, I appreciate it greatly, but could you share the information to how big you increased the tailplane itself. Thank you again, frankly I've never read such sort of remark and I also know that it is not always possible to scale a real airplane down that simple and make her fly well.
Regards, Alex.
Thanks for your comments, Alex. For you, I measured. The horizontal tail went from 12" span to 15" and the vertical tail went from 7" to 8" and I added a fin to give the rudder something more firm to hinge to. The biggest problem with the original vertical tail was how thick it was. I know why it was but still, this isn't supposed to be a display model. I finished my photo webpage of this mod yesterday but I doubt if my URL will be left here. If it isn't here, anyone mail e-mail me and I will provide it. It www.link
The habitch product to make it fly, with a 1800 mAh battery requires about 30 to 40 grams of weight in the nose, trust corrergir the engine down or make a mix with the elevator and put slats, for a washout .. . otherwise "no fly" .. My Ratings of 1 to 5 ... in my opinion one
This glider is challenging. The 2/3 aileron up trick helps. Definitely needs increased nose weight as the tail is very heavy. Glides good but the thrust angle seems to be up too high. Under power the plane wants to perform unrequested loops. Consider mixing in down elevator into the throttle curve.
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If the model was tip stalling do what i did and adjusted both ailerons 2/3 degrees up from neutral this increase WASOUT and then cures the stalling tendancy ,simple .
This glider needed a rear staberlizer. I glued the rudder on to the tail and cut a 3/4 inch rudder and moved the servo horn back. Going to try her out now to see if she still stalls to the left. The larger one has a stablizer,thats the 2400 size. I think the factory made a mistake.
This is not a glider at all I don't know what this is but a left hand staller for sure have to rate this one as poor. The rudder horn and servo was broke when I received it. Must advise you to shop for something else if you want a glider. Very Unhappy in N.C.
I agree William. This was my biggest dissappointment from HobbyKing to date. Han ven't given up completely though. I keep modifying the beast in the hopes that one day it will actually take flight and return to terra firma under my control for a gentle landing the right way up !!!!
Great looking plane, but can't get mine to fly right. Still going through a trial and error process. Would not recommend this plane to a beginner. I now have a "fleet" of 11 models all of which fly with the exception of this little baby ! If you are looking for a great beginner glider I strongly recommend the "Phoenix 2000" from HK. I got one from the Global warehouse plug and fly for less than $80 and I have had tons of fun with it. just my opinion based on my experiences.
i recept the glider few days ago and i'm trying to build it today but i do not understand something (this is my first rc plane !): how can i put on the vertical stabilizer ? there is nothing for that ! thanks for your help !
Glue and crew the horizontal stabilizer per the booklet instruction. Take the rudder/fin an line it up side by side to the end of the fuselage, nad mar the locattion of the 2 rudder hinges on the fuselage. Make the 2 incisions for the hinge slots. Put some glue on the hinges and slide them in the slots. Let dry and connect the controls as normal.
OK it's no long & sleek lightning streak, but just look it up on YouTube & check the airshow video of the Habicht with the smoke generators on the wingtips - it sure is a thing of beauty flying thru the air! The extreme crab the pilot does on the landing is something to see too! That video alone has me LUSTing for a Habicht! ~8D I'd post a link but, alas, 'store policy'
And just for telling you about this - this thing of beauty, if you're anything of a true appreciator of fine aircraft you should give me a credit! *LOL*
Oh what the heck....hopefully HK won't banish me for this but here, check this out: ht tp:// w w www.link it truncates the front end of the link, it's on YouTube....you can figure it out! 8)
Yes very clever - opens up a far larger market for very little changes to the basic structure
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I have nine rc planes, one of which is this model. This is the only one that I cannot get to fly !!!!! Sure it responds to all control inputs when checking pre-flight and has lots of power, but just wants to corkscrew to the left when launched ! I have tried using varied power inputs but no luck yet. All control surfaces are neutral when launching but she just goes squirrely when up in the air. pretty to look at but right now not a performer ! Any suggestions would be appreciated.........thanks...
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Save your money and avoid the frustration of owning this model. My best advice is to get the Phoenix 2000 or the AXN Floater Jet instead. They both fly very well and are easy to control. Flying the "Habicht" is like holding an angry cat by the tail ! Every flight is very short and does not have a happy ending !!!!
One very quick an easy assembly, 30 minutes max,the tail section needs a quick glue into place ,slot a couple of blade cuts in the rear fuse,slot the vertical tail plastic tabs in the slots you just made an glue them in place, Note they dont mention this in the instruction manual,
Overall added a recieve 1500mah 3s 25-30c, COG is spot on with no issues to report, flys extremely well,is a very fast powered glider ,top marks here,cheers
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HobbyKing should do a recall on this glider. I tryed everything to get it to fly with no luck. Was a bad deal and my last plane from them.
The habitch product to make it fly, with a 1800 mAh battery requires about 30 to 40 grams of weight in the nose, trust corrergir the engine down or make a mix with the elevator and put slats, for a washout .. . otherwise "no fly" .. My Ratings of 1 to 5 ... in my opinion one
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