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This tiny Sabre is amazing, EPO foam combined with it's featherweight stats means it will be very forgiving of the odd less than 100% landing. The 35mm Fan Unit & ESC are pre-installed as are the aileron and elevator servo's, the model comes in 1 piece so all you have to do when it arrives is connect the control rods, hook up the RC equipment to a Reciever that uses Micro Molex conectors and you are ready to go...... Ah yes, Dogfighting with the new Micro F-86 Sabre in the local park, basketball court, in fact pretty well anywhere, these models are an absolute hoot when flown with friends!
The box the model arrives in is really handy for not only transporting the model to prevent hanger rash but the spare pockets in the packing foam are ideal for carrying spare Lipoly's and you will have so much fun with this, I would carry a few! This Sabre is so cute, even your Wife will like it!
Specs: Wing Span: 386mm Length: 380mm Flying Weight: 100g EDF: 35mm with 9000kv Brushless Outrunner Motor ESC: 6A w/BEC Servo: 2 x 2g
Features: Optional Drop Tanks Magnetic Canopy & Fan Hatch Pre-Installed Control Horns
Ive had Two F86 Skyangels sent to me with wonky tail alignment the last one was so bad I sent it back. Also be warned although they say it has molex connectors some arrive with standard JST's so too bad if you bought the molex RX. great fun when you fix all the bad assembly and wrong connectors.
Hey guys, I am having trouble with this bad boy rolling on its back in the air after a throw and crashing. I own the bigger jets (50mm) and have no problem tossing. My aieleron and elevator are set at neutral. Any advice or help will be appreciated and credit awarded.
Hmm seems like your CG is off. Try moving the CG forward a bit. Are you launching it on 2S or 3S? It barely has 1:1 T/W on 2S so that would be more challenging to launch.
do not connect the bombs...remove it...and if you dont use the bombs already..this jet is too sensitive with ailerons..and check your elevator if it has an equal deflection.
having trouble keeping this thing in the air seems to have barely enough power to get going. I want something that can go straight up when I let it go. I'm using a 2s 370ma nano-turnigy battery.
EDF's can take a bit of getting used to if you have only flown prop planes before. Prop planes have the advantage of quick initial acceleration and prop wash over the control surfaces for good control response even at slow speeds. Jets on the other hand are generally capable of higher top speeds but take longer for initial acceleration. And they can seem "slugish" right after a hand launch because there is hardly any air going over the control surfaces. Obviously you can always modify with bigge
Try a 3S (check the ESC and motor before trying, make sure they are compatible). EDFs need a lot of power to go straight up. Once you loose speed you loose control. So in order to keep climbing you need over 1:1 thrust to weight ratio.You can do that by using a bigger battery (more cells), bigger power system, or a combination of both.
I don't think the motor can handle more voltage its really small I'm sure the small windings would burn with almost double the voltage. I got it to fly after a few crashes somehow I had the ailerons crossed. I think I reset my radio and forgot to reverse that servo again. It's not a bad flyer little squarely I think some play in the pushrods need to be fixed. It takes a lot of diving speed to get it to loop.
The fan and motor can handle 3S. Search " 35mm F-86 CG" Click on the RCG group link to the CG specs for 35mm micros. There is a Q and A section. One of the questions was "can this fan/motor handle 3S?" The answer is YES!:). But the ESC wouldn't so you'll need a bigger esc.
it flys really well like its on rails one recomendation tho get someone else to throw it the first couple of flights and takeoff can be a handfull and get them to throw it hard
ive got this model mate and it flyes beautifully, jus dont do sharp turns, do big banks draw them out. works for me... ps. are you setting your throttal at full when connecting batt.
guys.pls help me...i purchased this jet micro f86 but the RTF version..but the battery i*ve purchased was the turnigy 370mah,2s 25-40c..can this battery be used for this jet...i cannot buy the zippy 350mah,2s,20c because its backorder..my shippment will arrive this week from hk...pls guys give an info...thanks in advance..
hi,how do i connect the 9A esc to the stock esc is there any cutting of wires needed \, soldering may be?i read all discussions and i am interested in buying RTF version and i will upgrade it to 3s since the stock set up was only 2s.pls help guys.thanks
You will need to do some soldering for the ESC but the motor and fan will hold up to 3S. It flies GREAT on 3S. It is a must. I also read that some have flown it on a homemade small 4S...
Hi everyone, got this plane yesterday but can't get it to fly. It seems to not have enough power to go anywhere, kind of floats on the spot for a couple of seconds then falls to the ground. Running stock setup including bombs and the suggested nanotech 370mah 2s and ar6300 receiver. Will it do this If it is tail heavy? Had someone hand launch it for me but can't get any speed this is my first edf.
I think it might be a bit tail heavy. What is the best way to get the proper cg? I tried holding my fingers under the wings but doesn't seem very accurate.
It's heavili to say, because I bought this plane for my friend, but as I remember the proper CG is in the instruction, moreover he made a front of plane a bit heavier (after some crash). What I must say is that, this plane is difficult to throw - you must throw it up and rather strongly. It flight with upper nose at first, but when it has more speed it fly good.
Thanks I just balanced it on two rods sticking out of the foam box. 59mm from leading edge I have added an Aussie 5c and 10c piece to the nose and seems to be spot on for cg. I'll hopefully give it a go tomorrow with a fast slightly upward throw and see if I can get her flying.
You should go on the airfield with your friend. You will control the plane, and your friend will throw it. It is good if you start this hobby and you haven't got some experience.
Thanks I don't have any experience with edf's. Seems to be a lot different to my t28 Trojan and super cub. Any help is appreciated as I would like to get another maybe bigger next time.
I'm agree with Thorax78, the ESC can't manage a 3s battery pack (I do not think the motor like either because it takes lot of RPM (60 000 ?) in standard configuration...)
I have been running 3s for a little bit now. Look up 3S F-86 on you tube, By truckzilla355 to see how it fly's. No issues with the stock ESC. I have written a build/review in the RTF version of this.
anyone have a cue hot to connect the pushrod fastener to the pushrod? Says in the manual to glue it but it is metal to metal. seems sketchy to me. Like it would come apart in flight. AmI missing something here?
got this jet mate and i used 5 min epoxy to glue pushrod to fastener and have had bout 15 flights no probs as of yet. wouldnt worrie bout metal to metal as its tiny..
Has anybody had one smoke-out* mine in its second flight , started after about a minute to make a starnge sound which sounded like a failing motor. Landed it, fired up the engine in my hand and smoke came out. Looks like the ESC is underpowered, got an 8A arriving tomorrow.
Kellyann do you not hate that. Now you will have to battle with HK. Be clear and try not to get too mad. They make you jump through many hoops. They are trying to find a loop hole. Any thing they can shift the blame.
Andrew you could go buy a rare earth magnet from one of the many seller on the net. Hobby King sell them to but I do not think they are the right size. But what I did was pull apart a few old CD Rom. If you tear apart the Laser you will find 2 rare earth magnets. (It is my secret keep it under your hat). You have to pull a few apart (different types) to get the right size magnets. I hope this helps.
I would suggest buying a new motor. This plane has a very tiny motor and balancing the bell of the motor in a EDF application is critical. Using a non standard size magnet will make the bell unbalanced.
You need both the Rx and Tx. If you are gonna use a Spectrum Radio get the orange 410 Micro receiver( remember the micro you get two 410 rx's) or if you use a Turnigy 9X you can use the HK GT2 rx, strip the covers to save weight and cut and solder standard servo connectors on, works great
Rustler232 nice one. Good pick up. Yes as you know not tx or rx but it is nice to show them up now and then. Us buyer never get away with a miss take so why should the seller. Keep it up
High altitude causing reduced thrust. I fly in Nairobi at 1750 meter above sea level. I cannot get it to fly. Even after a good throw it slowly looses altitude and stalls after less than 100 meter flight. I use a Zippy 20C 350 mAh 2S battery, OrangeRX R415 and no fuel tanks. Total weight is 95 gram. I fixed it vertically pointing down on a precision scale and measured max thrust to 48 gram. Could anyone flying it successfully at sea level perform the same measurement for comparison?
OK, so i have received my F86 Sabre 35mm EDF Micro Jet EPO (RTF - MODE 2)in perfect condion etc. i have charged the battereys also, but when i try connecting started the plane it seems like the transmitter and receiver do not connect to eachother, first i turn on the plane after it stops beeping i turn on the controler and everything is is on 0% and just nothing works? please reply quickly :)
sorry for posting here just looking for a fast reply :)
It will work, but as I know, servos and ESC have different plug (you must chage it). Receiver is aa bit bigger and haevier than 3CH receivers from HK (your Tx probably doesn't work with them), but if you put it in a good place in your plane (according to Center of Gravity and space), everything will be OK.
Hi guys can i use the hobyking rx in this jet? And is it good for a first jet. Also it might be a stupid Q but what is edf, epo and eps stands for? (Beginners) thanks.
You can use HK stuff mostly Hobby King GT-2 2.4Ghz Receiver 3Ch. EPO, EPP and EPS are materials which in plane was made. EDF is type of engine which is used in jet plane like this.
You can use Hobby King GT-2 2.4Ghz Receiver 3Ch but you have to change servo connectors or you can solder servo wires on the receiver* EPO is a foam type and I think it's the best foam avaible: it resist small crashes and it's easy reparable* EPP and EPS are two other types of foam and they are less strong than EPO* EDF = Electric Ducted Fan in this case it's a fan powered by a brushless motor. And well, it can be a first jet if you have experience with acro planes (this jet is very sensitive).
I have recently purchased a 35mm F86 Sabre which has a R415 Rx. does anybody know if there is another Rx which will replace the orange R415 and is compatible with the HK-6A V2 transmitter please
Absolut geiles Funfliegerchen. Macht irren Spaß. Allerdings nicht für Anfänger oder Leute mit schlechten Augen :-)
Muß immer herhalten wenn bei meinen anderen Modellen der Akku am Ladegerät hängt
It flies good in on 2S, way better on 3S. Go 3S with the Turnigy Plush 10A ESC and nanotech 370 mah batts! You'll enjoy it.
And also, you can fly it as it was on 2S, just throttle back a bit.
I fly with 2s because I have not upgraded the ESC for 3s, and I am not so sure if 3s batteries will fit under the canopy. Hand launch is not too easy with 2s, but normally I get it started, but would be easier with more thrust. Once it has gained enough speed, it flies well with 2s, but you will find yourself flying always with nearly full power.
Small anecdote: was on vacation in the Alps, in a village at 100 meters height with great green meadow. Believe me or not, I did not get this plane a
I got the 2 cell 370 it said to use but it took cutting and just barely fits. I'd be more afraid of melting the esc then making a 3 cell fit. I get about 8 mins on the 370
I have a question ive heard people talking about putting 3s batteries in this i have two things to ask 1-how much of a speed boost do you get from a 3s over a 2s 2-can a 3s even fit and if only a few will fit any sugestions.
I use successfully 3S batteries with my Sabre, the speed boost is considerable, up to 80 mph. You can easily use the nanotech 370 mAh or the 460, just cut some foam and change the ESC to one which will support the boost, one such as the Turnigy plush 10A or bigger.
I just received my Orange micro DSM2 Rx and can confirm it plugs straight in. Finally the Sabre comes alive! :)
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I Just received this plane yesterday. Took me about an hour to get it ready. Most work was soldering normal sized plugs onto the servos which you don't have to do with a super-micro receiver (HobbyKing: can't wait for the DSM2 Version RX!!). It got a bit crowded and i had to improvise a bit to get the RX and battery in (4ch DSM2 from HK). Not much more to do, the necessary steps are in the manual (which is for the Kit, so you can skip most steps)
It's my first EDF plane and i needed 3 tries to get it into the air (yes its very robust) but then, when you get the hang of it, this plane really is much fun :-))
When you try it, get someone who throws it for you. Set the timer to 4 minutes, then you have enough time to land without stress.
I really could kick myself for only getting one battery-pack.
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Completely satisfied with this one! NO issues whatsoever. Big forum on rcgroups going on.
I did the following:
-remove magnets of EDF hatch. Secure with double sided tape. Saves 2.5gr.
-0.5mm pushrods instead of original steel ones (saves 0.8 on the tail!)
-directly solder servos to my lightened AR6100 (1.3gr, no antenna, no connectors)
-shrinks sleeve over aileron servo arm, then use needle to make a hole. Servo arm hole is 2x the control rod diameter!
-removed "bump" under nose, not using drop tanks
AWESOME JET! Will get another one if this one is "lived" too much
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La verdad que tenía mis dudas de que volase al ver lo pequeño que es!!! Pero voló incluso con viento y no lo hizo mal, incluso hize toneles, vamos una cucada para llevar en el maletero y para vacilar en el club! Lo que si se puede mejorar es la algura que hay en el varillaje que vá al servo de alerones. Saludos.
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This is a great little jet but you really have to keep it light. There is virtually no room for the Rx so I used a Spektrum AR6300 and tucked it under the horn on the elevator servo. You have to change the plugs to a micro JST type but this can be done by popping the connectors out of the plugs supplied and putting them into the new ones. I used a Flightpower 2s 300mah high discarge pack. This give exactly the right CoG although you do need to remove a little foam to fit it in. Flies great and will loop and roll from level flight. I left off the drop tanks.
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A surprising good plane: With a so small EDF it's plenty of power, can do all basic aerobatics (loops and rolls), it's easy to fly, fast and predictable. Just mind it's a FAST little plane, keep eyes on it all the time.
Until now, ESC, engine, servos and EDF does really well the job: perfect handling, no power troubles, smooth operations.
The sugested Zippy 2s fit perfectly the (little) space available.
No problem for hand launch
Some (really little) issues:
1.Micro jst: if you have not a micro jst rx, it's better look at ARF kit. I used my Assan receiver and I had to solder standard servo plugs.
2. I notice a big change in nose attitude with full power and no power for landing: be prepared to add elevator-up. I have not mounted the sub-wing tanks, maybe with tanks the beavior is different.
3. With wing tanks, the model will not Enter in its box, that is very nice for protect the model during handling, storing and carrying.
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