Mini F-18 EDF Fighter Jet EPO (PNF)

 Frogforce#1 16 points

Check all wing for twist, trailing edges and leading edges even, does it balance left/right is one wing heavy. Make sure battery and wires are all on the left side. Give it more left elevator up only by a bit. You do have to throw these little jets quite hard and fast up at about 30 degree to get good air speed. Check cog to.

 Rodil 3 points

Ok, will do all your suggestions, thanks a lot

 Tom 2 points

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 neozrul 13 points

Hi Herman for the transmitter an receiver you can choose what you want from the menu categories under Radio and Receiver..for charger you can use digital charger for Lipo..battery just follow the advise from the product specification..

 customer5 308 points

Any TX or RX would do. If you are going cheap the oragneRx TX and orange RX receivers will work. But you would want to get a better system such as futaba or spektrum, which in the long run is better than cheaper stuff. Unfortunately this would not make a good 2nd aircraft. It reaches extremely high speeds which are easy to over control and since its a jet, if you stall near the ground there is no prop wash over the tail to bail you out. Jets generally are not great 2nd aircraft, they are good aircraft to look into after you've flown at least an aerobatic aircraft or a faster wing. For the best results avoid flying this one before mastering aerobatic or fast aircraft. Good luck!

 JON 14 points

there is no landing gear, please credit if best.

 brauny 85 points

Any 4 channel remote and receiver . Not recommended for a first plane , hope this helps

 S2K Matt 65 points

This plane was my very first EDF, in fact i purchased it before I was even very good at flying. It flies very well and is not too crazy. It does handle well and can be capable of these maneuvers once your more comfortable with it. Also, if you have a radio with dual rates you can tame down the throws this way, or you can move the control rods to dial back the throws, but as stock, you should have no problem if you can fly ok.

 customer5 308 points

It turns like any other jet. Just bank and yank the elevator for it to turn. The F-18 doesn't have rudders but it can still turn well, keep some power in those turns. How much experience do you have? This is a fast jet, should be flown with care. Good luck!

 brauny 85 points

I've added 2 servos on the wings, as I don't like flying with tailerons.

 Humanzee 25 points

I love all these SkyAngel jets. I added the ailerons on the F-35 first* then on the F-18 I didn't. The ailerons definitely ended up not being worth the effort. Linked surfaces seems cheesy at first but ultimately, that's how it's designed to fly, so it really does handle better that way...

 hobbyer 12 points

the battery that i want is a 25-40c nanotech 850mA the description says 20c, can i still use a 25-40c?

 customer5 308 points

Yes that will work properly if that 850mah is a 3S or 4S. Make sure you get the 45C version, since with the 25C versions, the battery puffs a bit and is warm hot after flights.

 hobbyer 12 points

ok, sow this battery will www.link can this plane fly on 4s without any mods?

 hobbyer 12 points

iwant to make sure that i am doeing everything wright. as i am building the plane, do i need to use hot glue(like some other planes), or special epo foam glue? and i see that my link isn't working, i mean this battery: Turnigy nano-tech 850mAh 3S 45~90C Lipo Pack. will this work with the plane, if the plane is stock? and you sad that it wil work if it is a 3s or 4s. but does this plane work with a 4s without burning the esc? sorry for my english, i'm from the netherlands. and this would be my first plane, thats why i'm asking all those questions

 customer5 308 points

No problem:). Have you had any other airplane experience? The RC jets are generally harder to fly than others. The flight depends on speed. Once it stalls, control is lost until you can recover. I would strongly recommend you get a 3ch high wing trainer and work your way up to the jet. Its not that easy flying a jet. Once you are comfortable flying 4 channel faster prop aircraft, then you can step up for a jet. Good luck! You will need a 30A ESC for 4S. Also hot glue might not work as well as gorrilla glue or JB weld. The battery you put works well too. Overall save this jet for later until you can fly high speed prop panes. Then get the jet and have fun:).

 customer5 308 points

Yeah that will work. Have you tried just tailerons? People on RCGs have had success with just tailerons. Someone has modded theirs with 1 servo for each surface. It also worked well. Good luck!

 S2K Matt 65 points

I modified mine this way and the added weight really affected the flight characteristics, you have to add 2 servos, plus a servo reverser for one elevator, and glue weight. I wasn't happy with it. In all honesty, I would leave the elevon setup as its much lighter and simpler. The only reason I see to switch is the option to wire flaps or spoilers, really no other difference.

 brauny 85 points

Yeah I thought that it would get a bit heavy so I've put a 50 alloy edf and going to run a 4 cell 1000mh batt, hopfully a little bullet!! Just got to find a servo reverser??

 customer5 308 points

Do a search for Turnigy Servo signal reverser on hk , they sell it for $2. You should try just tailerons, take the pushrod off the ailerons and fly with just the tailerons. My F-22 flew a lot better without the ailerons mixed in. Those ailerons caused more drag and would drop the nose during turns.

 brauny 85 points

well i maidend her today and all i got to say is.. awsome!!!!! one of the best 50mm jet i have. with the 50mm alloy edf and 30amp esc and using a 4 cell 1000mah , the thing is a rocket.!! would recomend the setup im running ..

 S2K Matt 65 points

not sure what you mean? do you mean what fan unit can you use? 50mm units work well with minor foam trimming.

 MarkAurel 23 points

i mean landing gears

 customer5 308 points

You can use the stinger mini optional landing gear (search on HK). It is a bit long so you might want to shorten it. It has a steerable nose wheel so that'll help during taxing.

 Misfit mma 119 points

I blew a 5000kv engine on a 50 amp esc once. Lower kv might be better for thrust or higher amp ESC for speed. Hope this helps.

 S2K Matt 65 points

You only need a 3 channel, the channels are -Throttle -Elevator -Aileron You need either a TX that you can mix elevators and ailerons, otherwise you will need to use an on board Elevon or V-Tail mixer.

 tilen 1 points

4100-4200kv, best and cheapest way is to buy edf turnigy 2610 5000kv and fan with 6 blades

 Fe Crystal 16 points

??? rip of during flight it mean that you did not glue it properly... i have the same unit and pulling high manuver ,... did not have any problem .... use any hinge and ...use paperclip for the rod.... anyway that is what i did in my elevator...

 Polardegos 56 points

It is very important to remove the blue paint on the areas were the wing and other parts are to be glued to the fuselage. If not you are basically just gluing paint to paint, and that is no good. I just tape to remove paint, a bit of work but I have had no problems, 100 flights.

 Foxmobius 17 points

I realized what I had done wrong, that was not what I was asking... All I wanted to know was what control horn and pushrod to use. Neither of you answered my question. If anyone knows what control horns and pushrods THAT HOBBYKING carries that will work l, it would be appreciated. As I stated in the original question. I fixed the plan, I just need the pushrod and control horn.

 Misfit mma 119 points

Try PRODUCT ID: OR7-00401x10 under hardware and accessories Horn/Hinge/Clevis. Its 20mm in length the same size as the stock ones and only .97 cents for 10. Hope this helps.

 Lownfast 68 points

I doubt if you'll fit a 1300mAh pack in without having to remove so much foam that it will affect the structural integrity. I am running a nanotech 850mAh 3S pack, and still had to remove a little foam to fit it. These smaller jets are a fair bit more sensitive to things like throws and CG, And the wing loading would go through the roof, so I don't think I would try it myself.

 Harry05 18 points

I agree, probly a bit big, i run the Nano Tech 1000Mah no worries.. had to remove a little foam but structure is still perfect.. Replace both servos (mine were very poor and caused a couple of crashes) i use 2 of the HKSCM12-510g digital servos, its been perfect ever since.. going to try the 4800kv motor in it soon for more power... lol..

 Misfit mma 119 points

You are all wrong! I have this plane and is using a Turnigy 1300mah 20c battery, no fit or CG problems. About 5 minutes of flight.

 Harry05 18 points

Righto Charles.. LOL... 1300mah 3s 20c measures 81 by 36 by 21 and weighs 115g and discharges at 20c with short 30c burst and you get 5 min flight.. COMPARED TO: 1000mah Nano tech which measures 77 by 35 by 17 and weighs 79g will constanly discharge at 25c with burts at 50c.. and still get 5 mins flight.. Hmmm.. lets think... more power, less weight, same flight time, no fit problems, no cg problems.. and less than $1 more per battery..

 Misfit mma 119 points

Steven's a liar guys! Its $2 more not LESS than $1. The Turnigy fits snugly without any foam shaving and you can slide it in or out to gauge the CG and with a 5 minute countdown timer I have plenty of power for a landing.

 Harry05 18 points

Liar?? really?? got the pricing info of HK's web site Charles. i had to remove a little bit of foam to get the nano tech in, lownfast said he had to remove a little to get 850mah in, would have though a bigger battery (also got the sizes from HK site for both batteries)would require the same if not more. yes you can adjust the battery position to fix any cg issues, i never questioned that.. so chill out mate, just trying to help a fellow pilot out with my experiances..

 Misfit mma 119 points

So am I Steven! Originaly I put my Parkzone 11.1 1300mah battery in this plane(it fits too) but its $23.99 at the local hobby shop so I went looking for the same dimensions on HK and found the Turnigy with the same dimension costing(pay attention stevo)$8.99, as compared to the Nanotech $10.61. You made me out as a liar(and Iam telling the truth to help out a fellow pilot) and you proved yourself one by this site.

 Harry05 18 points

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 Harry05 18 points

Charles, You must be a FREAKIN Retard... LMAO!!! Please read carefully and slowly so it sinks in.. I never said you were a liar, and i am certainly am not 1, i never said the 1300mah wouldnt fit the aircraft, just a lighter, higher c rated battery might be a better choice.. i'm sure if you go back and read the posts start to finish (a couple of times if you have to) you will realise this.. just incase you dont understand what i have written before, READ THE POSTS AGAIN!!! Not sure how you got any lies from any posts about this subject, so just stop for a minuite, think about it, read the posts again if you have too, even have a discussion with the voices in your head.. im sure they will agree that i didn't say the 1300mah wouldn't fit.. Anyway i've wasted enough time on weirdos..

 Misfit mma 119 points

You said "and less than $1 more per battery" you simpleton! And you insinuated that a battery measures "81 by 36 by 21" cant possible fit because you had to "remove a little foam but structure is still perfect" for your precious Nanotech. Its up there where everyone can see it sister! Name calling huh? Iam not gonna stoop down to YOUR level but talk about the pot calling the kettle black. (Ancestors of lunatics):)

 Jack 18 points

I have to agree with Charles on this one. I was on the fence but the name calling was uncalled for. It was insinuated that the Tunigy would not fit and the prices do have a discrepancy from what was said and whats on HKs site.

 Misfit mma 119 points

Thanks Jack, I was only trying to help a fellow pilot but instead my answer is made a mockery without knowing all the facts and in all reality both batteries would work just fine. Really appreciated it. Say how do I get a cool profile picture like that?

 Jack 18 points

Cool dude named Pushrod showed me. Just type in (aerplane GIF) into Google select which one you want ,copy it to your Desktop and upload it to your profile.Easy.

 Misfit mma 119 points

Sweet!

 Lownfast 68 points

The servos have 'standard' plugs fitted. That means compatable with JR, Futaba, $pektrum, HiTec, tec.

 Marko 15 points

I think, you will not be able to fit a 4-cell lipo in this plane. I'm going to insert a 50mm 8-bladed fan with a 5800kv motor and a 30A BEC. The thrust should be around 400 gramms.

 Fe Crystal 16 points

there is a fan that is aluminum ... 50mm

 Marko 15 points

I did cut out the 3mm and it works fine *-)

 Foxmobius 17 points

You pull the two screws on the bottom side and pull the cover. Be careful though as the EDF unit is glued to it. That is the easiest access point to it besides splitting the plane in two.

 Fe Crystal 16 points

The plane package should have the wheels included.

 eckman69 20 points

Mine came without wheels. You'd be better of hand-launching and belly landing it. But for that you need to really, really make sure your battery is placed right for the PERFECT center of gravity. You also may want to use low rates for the first flights so that the plane doesn't over-correct when it starts rolling after the hand-launch.

 Maumy 516 points

yes it is the same size its the 50mm edf jet.

 Maumy 516 points

No all 50mm series do not come with landing gear. Although you can search in the bar for wheels or landing gear there are some replacement for other jets that you might be able to mod to this one.