There are only two times a battery can fail, during charge or discharge, and while you can not control what happens in your model you can control what happens during charging with the Turnigy Lipo Bunker.
Constructed from S304 certified stainless steel to withstand temperatures in excess of 800 degrees Celsius, the Turnigy lipo Bunker is a bullet proof safety enclosure designed to contain flames and help minimize damage to surrounding objects in the event of a lipoly failure. The duct will ensure heat, flames and gases being expelled from a lipoly battery will be vented in a direct and controlled manner.
Specs. Case Material: S304 Certified Stainless Steel Dimensions: 180mm x 90mm x 90mm
the vented corners are so the heat, flames and smoke can be vented out without have to remove the door. it is designed this way because in the case of a lipo failure, the door will become very hot and almost impossible to remove.
As I assemble this item I cut the **** out of my thumb and finger, and since getting it assembled each time I get it out to use it, I cut my fingers. Sure wish they had rounded the edges better, or included some rubber coping of some sort. Seems like a great product especially if it protects while charging and discharging. The designers had a little evil plan when they made this to make everyone cut themselves.
Had the same problem. Perhaps the designers have shares in a company that makes plasters. Perhaps this is why the product is not sold in the UK Warehouse? Our safety regulations would probably not allow it.
Question storage of 6s5000Mah LIPO dont think mutch will stop one of these if they go off, my experience had 3 of these storage charged placed in a fire proof bag while on holidays and one went off destroying the other 2 and everything around it, even melted my aluminium starter box temperature must have been incredible, cause unknown, batteries were in good condition not very old, and at storage charge,
Currently testing a new lot in a fire proof security case to see how it stands up if it ever happens again.
Hey I charge in a fire proof bag placed inside a secondhand Army ammo box, I also store my battery's in these boxes, there are several sizes of these boxes for what ever size/amount you want to store. If there is a fire, I do not believe I will have much to worry about.
I completely disagree with the only time a battery is in danger is while charging and discharging ! The ONLY time I had a lipo failure was during storage! AND they had been charged fully BEFORE storing! It has happened only twice but that is enough! once was with a Venom soft battery supposedly warranted for life but NOT they said I did not charge before storing and the second was the same thing only a less expensive battery.I am using a Racers Edge 2010 charger for several years only a problem with the soft case batts.I would not worry about a problem discharging while running I can loose a car or truck or what ever as compared to a home while storing!And while charging they should be monitored any way correct? So that all being said I think we need storage bunkers?
Well, your Problem is that you are NOT SUPPOSED to FULLY Charge LiPos when storing them.... descent Chargers have a Setting for STORAGE CHARGE, which put them at about 70% of a full charge, so i wouldnt complaint if i was handling my LiPos the wrong way
SOtod, but y wrong...lipo are most dangerous at charging and discharging, also if use low C for eletric motor that requires mores it got a chance to ingnite too..
ANd man please, let e teach y somthin, y never ever ever ever ver ever, storage a lipo fully charged, even as they say safe for a week i disagree..... at charges have a function called storage, that recharge just 50%, thts the correct for not loose capacity and not overheat cause discarge......
k...next time read more about storage Lipos....
I just think HK doesn't take into account that a lot of us Americans reading that statement think right off the bat something like, "I'll bet even a 22 rimfire bullet from any of my several guns would go thru both walls of that little stainless box!" Long live the 2nd Amendment, currently under attack.
This box is a nightmare to put together. I have been struggeling with pliers to get in place the pices holding the sides together. If I knew it wold have been this much work, I hould have reconcidered bying this. But sure its a great box once its put together.
the bunker is for charging, not storage. Storage does not pose immediate risk of LiPo meltdown. Discharge and charge is the risky periods in a LiPo´s life. And if you put all your batteries into the bunker when charging, you run the risk of melting down all your batteries in one go. Buy an Alu suitcase, ie "Aluminum Carrying Case Turnigy Integrated PCB Micro-Quad" for 10$, to store your LiPos, and Bobs your uncle.
I bought this autumn 2012, because of good looks & the fact that i now can charge lipos in my car on my way to the field, without worrying that a lipo meltdown will destroy my new Mini. only one battery at a time though - you dont want all of them to die at the same time.
This thing is just too small!
Pyrex glass ware is what I use to charge and store my lipos in. A couple of 6" by 9" rectangular casserole dishes will do the trick.
Then put 'em in a lipo sack to take to and from the flying field.
I am considering getting a couple of these (possibly within a LiPO sack to provide additional thermal insulation) along with a temperature sensor that is connected to the charger.
My reasoning: "If" something was to happen and "If" I was to make a household insurance claim for any damage then I can show that I used "reasonably practical" steps and equipment that is "fit for purpose" in preventing / minimising damage.
I guess there is always installing a Halon Fire Supression System! (Search for this video "2fyGGqgVzCY" in the usual spot)
A Pyrex - Corningware rectangular bowl with a cover is what I use for Lipo charging. Wife is not too happy but was a good excuse to get a new set at Walmart. Use a size that fits two 2S Lipos that can be charged at the same time. Elevate the charger (charger sitting on a converted PC Power supply is a good start) so the leads plug into the charger and the batteries are safely inside the container without stressed or kinked.
the 180mm length is about the same length as a 5000, ma 6s Zippy 5000 30 c batt, sorry stick with a coffee can I put some stones in the bottom and place on 1/2 inch plywood One other thing I have never seen a battery burst into flames in thousands of charges I have and others done.
It would be nice if theres a high-temperature-glass window. Besides temperature, I always check the visual condition of the pack while it is charging. This way, I can stop charging if the pack starts to bloat or something. Protection is great, Prvention is better. Would be great to at least have an optional window add-on.
I use it as a Lipo Trap 1) Dangle Charge leads threw back of box 2) Wait for a Lipo to come looking for a free Charge 3)When the Lipo tries to attach to the charge leads the door slams shut 4) Open door and clooect ur free Lipo I got 3 Lipos on the first day
Understood - that is why I mentioned the top should be removable for inspection purposes. To add, the top can be kept in place with magnets, clips or weights. I have never had a pack blow on me - puff up or get deformed in a crash yes - which automatically disqualifies them from the next game.
I agree it's too small. My charging set up consists of a shelf unit made up of concrete blocks and fire proof (1200 degs)plasterboard. Each lipo has its own colored coded bay and is charged in a lipo sack. And yes, my insurance coy did pay out when I lost over 20 models plus most of my spares and radio gear in a lipo fire
Just one, a 2S 1200mah 20C of non-Hobbyking origin. Blew up while charging. Suspected charger failure.
For such a small pack, the smoke emission and ignition is very horrifying. I cannot imagine going through the same with more cells large capacity.
sfactor ha ha ha , don't give them anymore ideas to fuel these batteries being dangerous. I have yet to see one catch on fire. I have used a coffee can, soup can, even a 3 hole cinder block I have charged them on my way to the field on the floor of the car charged them in my workshop. Basic rules of set out by the makers of these batteries and people wouldn't have a problem
never seen a batt burst into flames. I use a coffee can or if you don't drink coffee one of those ready to serve soup cans works as well. It is this kind of paranoid thinking that is driving a ban or restrictions on battery sales from China, Rules to follow,
never over drain never over charge always balance your batts if damaged in a crash don't use it if they start to get puffy don't use I find these people who don't take care of equipment that are casing the problems
I agree. It's not the companies that I making these restrictions, it's because of the stupid people who go out charging there packs at 10C, hoping that they'll charge faster, or not using the correct charger/adapter/etc. I read up before switching to Li-Po power and I feel confident that I know what I'm doing when charging and shouldn't need an ammo box to protect myself, LOL!
After reading this i took an old 3 cell lipo 1500 mah outside and hit it with ..a hammer a buncha tims on all sides..no fire..then i stabbed it with s screwdriver ..no fire...shot it with BB gun ...Nothing...only way it would heat it with a direct short....But whats the fun in that all baterys smoke/ burn when directly shorted//why do people think lipos are so dangerous?
Gandal, I have had two lipo fires in my house using state of the art Thunder Power chargers. Lipo batteries look incredibly safe right up to the point where they ignite. They burn hot, dirty, and very unfriendly. Don't wait for your own experience to find out - trust me: treat them like explosives. TC
I can still TOP taht LOL I just have my LiPos laying on top of my Charger or next to it when charging ..... In the Beginning i used a old Baking Form because of reading all these storys but nothing ever happened... i also have a LiPo Safe Bag here but oh well guess i like to live on the Edge charging these in my Livingroom lol
... and my wife put my charging LiPo 3S 2200 mAh on a sheet of paper not to scratch the electric heater in our guestroom (which is my RC workshop). And besides, if I stay nearby while charging, I think I am safe enough.
I charge mine outside. Lets face it, if your charging without using a lipo safe bag or some kind of containment and the pack does go bad.. your gonna get ya fingers burnt trying to disconnect and get it out the nearest window while its pumping out nasty gasses and rapidly warming up :) Those in doubt probably havent seen a lipo catch fire.
What a nice object, I would buy it just to put it in my house and look at it ! congratulations to the designer
Can anybody explain, especially the designer and producer of this product, why it has to be constructed in this way? Why not just a pre-welded box?
I do wish this had come with some instructions,
even if only to show the order in which it should be constructed.
To save others making the same mistake - bolt on the end plate stays first.
Once the sides are together, you cannot tighten the screws from inside!
Look at the picture.
Also assemble the door catches before putting the sides together.
Yes, it is very fiddly positioning the metal pieces that hold the sides together, but make sure the holes line up or the screw threads will strip.
Cannot comment yet on using it, but a final word on putting it together.
Mine turned red during building.
The edges are rough and sharp and have not been smoothed. They cut into fingers very easily. Make sure you have a large packet of plasters to hand before you start.