A 1st for Hobbyking, a traditional builders kit! This is the same model as the Hobbyking Mini-3D GeeBee ARF, which once built, offers a combination of an ultra thick wing and huge control surfaces for excellent 3D performance. This kit offers easy assembly and a laser cut parts, so not like the old days of cutting out ribs and formers, making it an ideal choice for the ARF/RTF generation to get all nostalgic and scratch build a plane again, without a large time or financial commitment, get building on those windy days!
Built correctly the GeeBee is almost as light as a foam shockie, but should be tough enough to stand a few knocks, not to mention being more resistant to hangar rash, especially as you want to keep your custom scheme pristine! They always say that there is nothing more satisfying than watching your scratch built model take to the air....now is your chance to experience it!
Another lesson learned, question directions, always. Anybody notice the bare fuselage picture at the bottom left, the fuse is upside down and they put the vert stab on the bottom. Yep, I fell for it! If you look at the picture of the covered fuse, they corrected the mistake.
Just maidened mine this afternoon and everything went perfect. We have an indoor area the size of a basketball court, this will be a handful, I think a little tail heavy and I might be ok. My setup from today is too fast for our indoor area.
thanks for the answer. Want some cheap indoor fun google RC groups 500 plans. You can use depron or foam board from Wal mart. Just click through till you see something you like then find where it say PDF Tile and print it off. Tape the plan together and rearange to fit the board you use
I have a copy of a Citabria out of Depron I also use a nutball but put a working rudder along with FlyZone super cub ( 18 inch wing) The guys are getting into the 3D end of it big time with true 3D indoor planes
this is my first kit , im not sure what the extra C-2 pieces (2) are for , i know 4 of them slot into the leading edge frame ? also i'm not sure how the D-3's fit on the wing tips , any help would be great ??
its been on BK for a while now..how often do these come back in stock? i hope they haven't stopped carrying this kit.. that would be a real shame.. i wish they start selling the ele rc SUNDAY profile 3d flier.. looks great!
There is really not much you can do about your postage since your cheapest postal option cost three times the cost of your aeroplane. I guess the only way is to make a few duplicates of your balsa template and sell it to your nearby fellow hobbyists to recover the postal charges.
Just finishing the kit off now, and I'd recommend a few things for your build:
1) The thin lengths of balsa ply are used for covering your wing spars (8x short lengths) and trailing edges (2x long lengths). This is not mentioned specifically in the instructions, but is required to properly secure covering to wing.
2) Use a single 9g servo for the alierons, it fits the cutout very well and simplifies wiring/linkage setup. I'm using a HobbyKing 'HK 15168' servo.
3) Turnigy 5g servos fit lengthwise along the rudder/elevator servo cutout but need spacers to secure fit. You don't have to do this but its easy to do with s**** balsa. Cover s****s with matched colour covering if you wish.
4) Total weight with HK transparent 'Lilac' covering, thin CA glueing, C20 motor, 2.4ghz DSM2-compatible Rx, Blue Series 12A ESC, Rhino 2s 750mAh lipo, 1x 9g servo and 2x 5g servos (minus linkages and control horns) is 208g, which is within given figure of 210g flying weight.
Hi kyrre, there is no motor mount included with the kit itself, but you do get one that is suitable with the recommended C20 motor. It is made of fibreglass and has to be cut to size. I recommend cutting at the inner edge of the large outer holes as this has worked for me.
I just received this kit 4/9. This kit is made of several thickness of balsa only. Fuse is 5mm, rudder and aile. are 3mm, ribs are 2mm, leading edge and rib covering are 1.5. These are approx., but it gives you an idea of the range of thickness. It is a simple kit to build. You really don't need instructions it's so easy to build due to it's low parts count and tabbed & notched construction. I dry fit all the parts in less than 5 min! Hope this helps
Yes,the shipping costs don't make much sense here at all.Five or 6 lite weight sheets of flat balsa wood cost just as much to ship as the entirely built up and covered version?Just on volume alone,there should be a significant difference in these costs.Anthony should have a closer look at making these shipping costs cheaper as he no doubt has a winner here if he decides to expand his "BIY" laser cut kit line.There is obviously still a strong market and demand for affordable old fashioned airplane kits after viewing some of the responses here.I for one,would like to see more kits offered for the "build it yourself" type modelers that are out there in the market place.Not all of us are into "ARF's" and actually enjoy the building of a model.It allows us to have better control of how a model comes together and what goes into it.You would also sell a whole lot more accessories than you do now as everyone would be looking to buy them to go along with their kit purchases.Just something to think about.
Bella, you couldnt be more wrong. The strength of the hobby today is because of the availability of ARF's, and as they continue to make more ARF's and PNP's and the like, it will get even stronger. Replace all the ARF's on the market today with kits like this and you will see the hobby destroyed overnight. You, myself, and some others like to build, however, we are only maybe 5% of the entire customer base. Most people do not want kits like this. 9 out of 10 buyers will buy an ARF over a kit like this any day. If I have to settle for ARF's to drive the availability of a plethora of different aircraft, so be it. 95% of people want to fly, not build, and maybe 5% of that 95% have the patience to actually build a kit to completion.
Haha. I never said "Replace all the ARF's on the market today with kits". What I said was "if everybody built just one".
I was simply saying that the appreciation and satisfaction one gains from building a kit will make a hobbyist for life!
There is no doubt that ARF's are popular and that probably has more to do with todays society and its need for instant gratification with no investment of time or effort on their part.Maybe that is the reality of todays world but it is sad to see building skills going down the toilet as a direct result of the surge of ARF's into the market place.I have been involved with aero modeling now for many many years and I have seen people and trends in the hobby come and go many times.In my own club,as an example,I have seen many of the newer ARF type members show up with a ready to go trainer type plane and I got to admit,economically sometimes,it is just plain cheaper to buy a plane ready built and covered than buying the kit version and then having to buy all the aditional accessories as well.What has to be kept in mind though is the quality differences that exist sometimes between components.ARF's are not particularily well known for having high quality components sometimes and given the choice,many modelers will change out or upgrade these components to something of known higher quality.The biggest problem with ARF's and this is particularily true of newer modelers especially,is that they don't have any idea as to how their model is constructed nor do they have any idea as to how to go about repairing it when it gets damaged.I've always said,"if you can build it,you can repair it" ,and I am a big advocate of promoting that mind set to all new comers to the hobby.People have to at least know the most basic aspects of modeling if they are to succeed in it and knowing "how to build" is just one of them.Unfortunately,many skills that used to exist as common place just years ago seem to be going the way of the Doh Doh bird.I've long admired the building skills and accomplishments of those modelers that acquire the "master builder" acknowledgement from their peers such as those exhibited at events like Top Gun etc,and it has always been the driving force to make me want to learn more and become better than I am.As my Grandpa used to say,"never turn down the opportunity to learn new things".From every kit I've ever built or plane I've ever scratch built,I can honestly say,the learning is in the doing.Hands on experience is eveything,and that unfortunately is what is being denied to many new modelers coming into the hobby through the ARF route.People who are naturally talented with their hands and accell at building or who have previous modeling experience,this obviously is of no concern to them.There is definitely room in the hobby for both but I would definitely hate to see the hobby just become another extension of the"Toys'R'Us" mind set with nothing but ready to fly models available.It has been my experience that people who kit or scratch build and fly their own models,are typically the most knowledgeable modelers at any given flying field.It takes time and patience to build a good flying model and maybe that's the real issue here at hand,people seem to be sadly lacking both these days.Times are sure a changing.
As anthony says the shipping there is crazy. also he also says for good customer support it cost alot. guess thats why he has lazy ones because there cheep. took over 2 weeks just for someone to repond to my email on def receiver. and now they took it off my ordering page history. a joke. i ordered 4 fly bars and they were back order so i did credit my account. so i could buy something diff. they credit me less than half of what i payed with paypal. email them and they gave me the rest. they have great stuff cheep but there service sucks. i know on my end there chat button dont come up to chat. like they block out the usa on chat now.
I am simply questioning if the kits could be set up to take advantage of the volume calculations in such a way as to reduce the freight cost. A flat pack by itself should be cheap, when having to combine these in a box is when the volume calculation should kick in. They could sell significantly more kits this way!!! Either that or make it a 3-pack deal with a slightly higher or similar ship weight.
This is just wahat you want to use all those bits laying around the workshop.
Well done HK, now please ship some to the OZ wharehouse.
Other build up kits are great for winter building.
Kit arrived well packaged and undamaged. Total weight including balsa sheets, instructions and clear plastic bag is 184g. The balsa is of uniformly grained, good quality wood. Instructions have pictures as well as text and are very easy to follow, they also specifically recommend the C20 motor, 8x4 props and a 2s 800mAh lipo.
I will post pictures and video of fully assembled kit upon completion.
I give this kit 5 stars, but shipping was expensive. This could be avoided if they stocked in local warehouses (USA, Europe, Australia etc). To help get better value from the shipping I bundled servos, ESC, motor, props, covering film and control horns with it. This worked out well and I would recommend it to others.
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I found someone (BoingK @ RCgroups) who has built this:
Seems you need:
4 x horns
A 9g servo in the wing instead of the 5g
4 x Pushrods
some Hinges or Tape
Battery strap (for fixing the battery)
According to BoingK @ RC www.link motor fits well once you trim the fibreglass base"
"400g of thrust with an 8 inch prop on 2-cell"
"weight 220g or so ready to fly"
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Kit is a complete kit. I used the item PRODUCT ID: NS12415x10 and PRODUCT ID: MH23146-4 for making the linkages. 2xHXT500 servos for elevator and rudder, 1xHXT900 for aileron. Some trimming needed for 9gr servo placing. Made the landing gear with 3mm carbon rods and PRODUCT ID: OR006-00601. Used PRODUCT ID: Tz12A as ESC and HXM2730-1300 as motor. Also there is a big mistake in the manual when placing the F part on the A part. Do not stick these parts according to the manual because in the manual F part is sticked under the A part, not over it! Thank you HK.
1. The laser cut is not all the way through in some places. 2. Laser cut is smaller than the peice that fits into the openings meaning you need to do a trial fit up an a lot of trimming. Still better than die stamped, but could be a lot better. 3. Warped wood included so you will spend time straightening peices.