Pretty much the same airframe as a Bixler 1.1 AFAIK so the motor will be fine and loads of people use it. 40A ESC would be better for a goid safety margin. But not sure if you will get a 5000mAh 3S pack in there - 3000 is pretty tight. 5000's are usually good for the huge Super SkySurfer.
30A ESC is enough for 6x4 prop. I checked my motor with ammeter and it draw max 25A with that prop. I'm using Turnigy Plush 30A and everything is ok. Battery is a to heavy in my opinion. 2200mah 3s 20C will be better choice.
See - this is where problems arise. On your 6x4 setup, you draw no more than 25A. No idea what else is in your setup. With mine in a WingWing Z-84 with TGS 6x4E, YEP45A ESC and NanoTech 1300mAh 3S 45-90C pack ... This little powrrhouse of a motor pulls 34Amps max and settles at 30. Been running it for better part of 50 packs. So - you reckon a 30A ESC is adequate - given that at least a 10% overhead really should be allowed? Better to spend a couple $ more and on a slightly bigger ESC and stay safe.
Unlikely as that ESC has a limit of 2000KV motors - this motor is 2200KV.Clearly stated twice in the product description: - "Maximum Kv supported: 2000rpm/v" and "Please note*
Do not use with motors of 3S or greater with a Kv of more than 2000rpm/v. Doing so will overload the ESC."
If you do try it with an 8x4 prop, check the setup with a watt meter. Some of these motors are very tolerant of high power, but others are not. I have one that runs quite happy on a 4S battery - the other I have does not like it at all.
hello guys i wanna buy this motor for an easystar2 in order to do some fpv (800-1k weight plane). i got a 35A esc (with 40a bust). My question is what prop would you recommand and will this esc be ok with that prop . thx guys
Marcelo, you don't need 40C battery for 5x5 prop - 20C is enough with this capacity. 5x5 prop will give you max 637g of thrust (on full charge state). 6x4 prop is better than 5x5 (728g of thrust). Oreste, if I were you I would use 7x4 prop (871g of thrust). Your 35A ESC should be enough because you have 40A burst. However you have to provide good cooling conditions like air flow etc.
Hooked this up with a 7x5 prop on it, Hobbyking 50A 'Redbrick' ESC, and a 3000mAh 3S LiPo. I thought it was a bit odd initially as it did not play the usual 'music' that I am used to, just gave one loud beep. However the motor still ran when I tested it, it did not seem to start very smooth, suddenly jumped into a very high speed but it did work. When I pulled the throttle back down the motor started to smoke,and I read that this can be caused by using too large a prop, so I switched it down to a 6x4. When I went to retest it both the motor and the ESC started smoking as soon as I attached the battery. Does anyone know what may have caused this?
Hi Kiernan, The single beep from your ESC just sounds like the throttle range wasn't set properly. It's also possible that your throttle trim wasn't set to zero, so the ESC sensed the throttle was partially on. This shouldn't have caused the smoking problem. To be honest it sounds like you fried the windings in the motor. Look in thru the front of the motor with a small flashlight and see if one or more of the windings is darker than the others. What would have appened is you overheated the windings the first time you ran the motor. This caused the clear plastic film on the wire to melt or burn away just when you shut the motor off. The softened insulation allowed one or more shorts to occur between adjacent wires and this short caused the immediate smoking when you started the motor the second time. You can verify this by using an ohm meter to test the resistance between each of the 3 motor leads. test each of the 3 possible combinations and you will probably see a big difference between the readings, meaning that the windings are shorted. Cheers, EA!
Darn, I'm studying this kind of stuff at Uni so I had an inkling that may have happened, wanted to get some extra advice on it though. It's a bit of a bugger, ESC is obviously fried now as well (tried using it's UBEC to power the receiver just before without the motor attached, however with no luck) so looks like it'll be back to the stock motor and ESC on my bixler till I can get some new ones in. Frustrating about the motor though, I certainly did not do anything obvious that would have adversely effected it. Might have a try with the warranty, but thanks for your help :)
Hi Kienan, Thanks for the credit. Don't give up hope on using this motor (not the one you have, obviously) on your Bixler, as I know a few people who have made the change to this motor and the performance difference is amazing. The Red Brick is a mediocre ESC. Order a new motor and a better quality ESC. The one I would recommend is the HK BlueSeries 40A (PRODUCT ID: Tz40A). It's a great ESC at a very affordable price. The best thing about it is the auto-timing feature. It uses an algorithm that compares rpm gain to current increase to set the most efficient timing. This motor is very sensitive to having the proper timing or it will run rough/hot. Cheers, EA!
Considering it as replacement in my Bixler 2.
Is there any adapter mount necessary or it will suit the regular one?
Where can I have some extra length cables?
What prop would you suggest using this engine when for FPV platform?
Which ESC then (related to the prop size I guess...).
Hi danyy, You can safely run this motor on 2S or 3S using at least a 30A ESC. A 35A-40A ESC would be better if you will be running this motor for long periods at full throttle. A few people have tried to run this motor on 4S, but in most cases they burned their motors out, so 3S definitely seems to be the max. Cheers, EA!
For this motor I would only go as big as a 7x4 - several use it so with 3S and a 40Amp ESC. I do not have a 7x4 prop to try it so cannot ensure it is OK. On 2S it would be no problem. Either way, it is too small a motor for your 1.3kg model and the G15 is a far better option. The G15 series are excellent motors.
I purchased the PNF version I think. Here are the stats:
Material: EPO Foam
Wing Area: 26dm2
Wing Loading: 25g/dm2
Flying Weight: 650g
Motor: 2620-1900kv Brushless Outrunner
ESC: 20A w/BEC
Servo: 4 x 9g
Any 40A or higher ESC will do the job. I'm using a 50A hobbyking ESC with this motor in my Bixler. Product ID is
9261000004. I tend to over rate my ESCs a bit though, its not really something you want to fail in the air. That one has a switching BEC instead of a linear one too, which some of the cheaper/smaller ones wont have.
Ya the original mount is fine. The motor fits properly in the original cowling too. Doesn't rub the side or anything like that. On your first launch with that motor make sure not to set the throttle too high. With the bixlers thrust angle and that motor it causes quite a bit of nose down pressure
i bought this motor but i haven't got now a 7x4 prop. so i will use it with 11x6 or 12x5 propeller. and as ESC iwill use this "Hobbyking SS Series 40-50A ESC"
can be a problem? planes wing 120cm,body 90cm. ?
I had this motor in combination with the hobbyking 45 amp esc (50 amp max). The motor was running pretty hot, also was the esc. Was this the wrong combination or is it more normal with this motor-esc combination?
Thanks in advance!
nahh , should be fine, I use 7x4 ..gets me plenty of power with 50A ESC. I guess it depends on how match airflow is the engine is getting. I placed my on a pusher , but the engine was completely exposed, and the ESC was exposed as well (with heat-sink)
Yeahhh okay. Mine was also a pusher, im going to try out 7x4 maybe...
Mine esc was in the compartment with my battery and ubec, im going to make more airflow than, not always easy with a self build cardboard flyer :D
Thanks for your help!
7x5 is the max for this motor? I run it (no problems at all) with a 8x5x3 .. I would hower love to be able to find a motor that can take more amps then this motor.. But.. great motor! Especialle for its price..
Hi I'm Rigo I purchased this engine, I have a Bixler 2, but the engine will warm to the point that melted the engine bracket. What could be the cause of overheating ..? I use a TURNIGY Plush 60amp Speed **Controller, nano tech 5000 mah battery 25-50. 6x4 propeller. Thanks
The NTM is a very nice motor ... But is a lot heavier than the one you have. I don't have a Bixler, so not sure if it is best option. Suspect it would be fine, but better to ask on the Bixler or NTM motor pages.
comprei varios motores desse e um deles tava com empuxo de -500g com helice 7x4, achei estranho, fui ver e o fio dele era mais fino que os outros penso que veio trocado talvez seja 1400kv ou ate mesmo 1000kv, a hobby king ta vendendo gato por lebre, quero ser indenizado, alguem sabe como proceder?
They come included with the motor, when I bought 2 of these motors 1 prop adapter fit the 2nd did not, I think they sent by accident a 3mm unit when the motor shaft is 3.17mm, But yes they are included in the cost.
Hi check this out: 3,17mm prop saver adapter(PRODUCT ID: 317MPRPSVR)* 3,17mm classic prop adapter (PRODUCT ID: JJ3.175)* 3.17mm huge prop adapter (PRODUCT ID: JY3.175). In my opinion the last one is to big for this motor (however shaft size is ok). If you want to buy motor mount check "Electric Motors -> Motor Mounts" category.
You can buy 5 of 3.17 collet type from E B A Y for around $6 delivered, I bought them for spares. and I reckon there good, I had to use one of them because HK supplied the wrong size on one of the motors
I would only use a 8x4 if you checked it with an amp meter, 7x4 should give you around 300watts of power, I use a 7x6 but you need to test with an amp meter not all same size props pull the same current! different brands may differ in current.
I use a 7x4 no problem would think the 8x6 would draw too much amps but not tried one yet if you are unsure about prop sizes buy a watt meter and test the entire setup with different props and if you don't exceed any of the maximum current drains of your setup you should be fine
I guess it is 3s battery? 1.8 x 20 = max 36A. 7x4 prop is the best choice. 8x6 will definitely burn your motor. However I'm not sure if this configuration is enough for 1.4kg plane. If I were you, I would use a bigger motor.
I checked my motor with ammeter. It take 25A with 6x4 prop (full battery charge full throttle) and something about 30A with 7x4 (I can't check exactly because my ammeter is designed for 30A max). For that case you have to use a good battery - I'm using Zippy LiPo 2200mah 25c (2.2 x 25 = max 55amps). I think that 2200mah and 20c should be also a good choice. For 6x4 prop I'm using Zippy LiPo 1600mah 20c (1.6 x 20 = max 32amp) which is enough.
Very well made and a powerful brushless motor. Comes with a 3.5 mm connector is soldered of gold , as well as with the engine mount and prop adapter. I'll use it to 1000mm wingspan plane EPP in combination with 2S lipo pack and EP 7x4 orange prop. This installation supplies about 18A or 130 watts ... very cheap. I recommend it!