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  Quote Brett Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07/Jun/2010 at 8:25am
I think we are talking about different items.
 
I am referring to the pin that secures the shock to the swingarm.  How hard was it to get out and did you use a pin punch?
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  Quote Janezki Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07/Jun/2010 at 9:52am
Aahh... The pin is secured by two set screws from below, you can see them if turn the bike upside down.
Open those screws and the pin can be pressed out with a long M3 screw for example.
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  Quote Brett Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12/Jun/2010 at 9:58am
@Janeski
 
Hey dude, you holdin out on us?  I found this picture from your pic.fi account.
 
Been thinking of something along these lines so save the lexan.
 
Is this music wire?  How did you attach it to the mounting plate (welded?)
 
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  Quote Janezki Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13/Jun/2010 at 3:54am
Hey, someone's been lurking around, lol. Big smile
Been a bit busy since I'm on holiday...

Yup, it's 4mm music (piano?) wire and welded to the plates. I stole the idea from someone here, made my own drawings and a friend of mine did the welding.

Had to order four drive shafts from ehirobo.com (just in case), but since I was in a hurry to get the bike rolling, I made few of my own:



plus made a prototype chain guide/tensioner,


Went for a test ride, hit a rock and broke one steering link. Ouch
There's a short video from the incident at my pic site, http://janezki.pic.fi/kuvat/RC_stuff/qrf400/
Got the steering link fixed today, mainly because it's been raining all day. It prolly rains tomorrow too, so dunno if I can test the slider throughly yet.

Also, changed the stock 10t pinion to 14t and have a 3000kv L sized motor coming from HK.
It should be just about perfet fit between the frame plates - well see...

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  Quote Brett Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13/Jun/2010 at 11:03am
Man, I see now why you are having trouble with Rocks, looks like a quarry.
 
You'd better put a link to the battery & pinion for us.
 
Curious though, with the greater KV & higher pinion tooth count, you are looking at some serious speed gain, right? Do you think it will handle it?
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  Quote Janezki Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13/Jun/2010 at 4:31pm
That's not normally the place to drive the bike, just wanted to see how it goes there. Won't go back...
This bike's really for sporting fields, parks & asphalt.

Didn't plan any battery upgrade, but pinions (12t & 14t) came from impaktrc.com and are made by Robinson Racing. Also for the stock motor you need a bore reducer, since mod1 pinions are normally meant for 5mm shaft.
Robinson Racing part numbers: RRP1200, RRP1212 & RRP1214.
The motor is HobbyKing's KD36-60-08L 3000kv and if my measures are correct, it really is tight fit between the frameplates.

With stock setup & 3S lipo the bike goes 20.92 mph (33.6 km/h) and 14t pinion gives top speed of 29.28 mph (47.04 km/h). These are just calculated theoretical (=optimal) top speeds.
I'm not looking for anything extreme, just a bit more top end. With 3000kv L motor & 12t pinion I should (or maybe could) hit 35.86 mph (57.6 km/h), which is more than enough for this bike. Going straight is not the problem, turning is... Wink

All calculations made at R/C Calculations.

Here's the "all stock" data for QRF (with 3S LiPo):

Differential Ratio: 1
Transmission Ratio: 3.555556
Other Ratio: 1
Spur Tooth Count: 58
Pinion Tooth Count: 10
Total Voltage: 11.1
Motor KV: 2100
Tire Diameter (inches): 5.82
Tire Ballooning (inches): 0.2
Motor Current Draw: 60
Motor Coil Resistance: 0
Spur/Pinion Ratio: 5.8 : 1
Total Ratio: 20.62222 : 1
Tire Circumference (inches): 19.54 inches (496.33 mm)
Rollout: 0.95:1
Total Motor Speed: 23310 RPM
Vehicle Speed: 20.92 mph (33.6 km/h)
Effective KV Value: 2100
KT constant: 0.64 oz-in/A
Motor Torque: 0.2 ft-lbs
Final Torque: 4.15 ft-lbs
Final Power: 666 watts (0.9 HP)


Note!
Use nominal battery voltages to get accurate results, i.e. 1 LiPo cell = 3.7V

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  Quote Brett Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13/Jun/2010 at 4:59pm
Thanks for the info & links.
 
I went for a HW- EZRUN 17.5T/SL-3650 as it was a close replacement, same shaft size, barrel length and 2400KV.
 
The KDs look a good (and cheaper) upgrade if you get the 5mm pinions.  Sounds like you will be shoe-horning the "60" in though. LOL
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  Quote todda Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02/Aug/2010 at 3:13am
Hi guys, here I show you some mods/add-ons I made and tested successfully.

1) Chain tensioner:


It works well, but makes an awful noise... I got used to it and I'm happy with this version I made (it's version 3) :)

2) Tail protector holder made of wheel stoppers (4 mm). They are connected with a threaded rod. There I insert a protector made from 3mm piano wire (not shown). This works very well.


And yes, it's a dirt bike... Tongue
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  Quote Brett Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02/Aug/2010 at 8:30am
The wheel stoppers are a great idea, makes it maintainable if you need to replace the wire.
 
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  Quote todda Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02/Aug/2010 at 5:18pm
Thank you.
Yes, it's easy to maintain, the spare parts are cheap and it's as simple as possible to build.
Another pro is that you can change the length of the protector if you think you need to. Just open the set screws, set the wire correctly (or replace with different length) and close the screws. Piece of cake...
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