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Turnigy Spacewalker half scale 168" 4.3m electric |
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Ian W
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Posted: 03/Feb/2011 at 7:12am |
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Hi Meme, excellent craftsmanship and quite inspirational. I have a 1/3 scale spacewalker and that is big enough but 1/2 scale - you'll be needing a trailer!
I agree with your thoughts on the Turnigy products and as insurance I always pull the big motors apart to oil the bearings and lay additional epoxy between the magnets. I fly large scale electrics anf they are all powered with Turnigy equipment. Current build 89" MX2.
Look forward to more updates and pics!
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Any time not spent fly'n, break'n and fix'n is time wasted!
Cheers Ian
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MeMeMeMe69
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Posted: 06/Feb/2011 at 8:57pm |
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Thanks for the reply Ian. I also fly lots of large electrics. I have a Eurofighter 5Kw EDF, a 4.5Kw Citabria and lots of 3 to 4Kw aerobatic planes. My half scale build is actual nearing completion, I am just a bit behind with posting pics. I hope to get it up to date in the next few weeks. I will also add a video showing the complete plane.
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MeMeMeMe69
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Posted: 06/Feb/2011 at 9:01pm |
Thank you. That looks just the right sort of thing. I'll see if I can turn one up....the tricky part is the keyways! |
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MeMeMeMe69
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Posted: 07/Feb/2011 at 6:21am |
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Fus front half now together. here it is all jigged up with epoxy drying.
The only problem with freezing temp was the epoxy took forever to set!
![]() ![]() And the the next few pics show the top half of the fus being worked and prepped ready for sheeting. I have also made the front pilot hole....must be a tight fit in the full size!! ![]() The sheeting around the pilot seat is a laminate I make of 3mm balsa with 0.4mm ply attached. It makes a really nice lightweight strong material for large areas. ![]() ![]() |
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MeMeMeMe69
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Posted: 07/Feb/2011 at 6:22am |
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Weight
I have weighed everything built so far, all the remianing wood to build the wing and fus and then all the motors, servos, esc's, batteries etc. Total weight 35kg. However, this does not include the covering. I have calculated 8.5 yards of the 60" wide Diatex 1000. Does anyone have an idea of what weight this will add when doped and painted? My initial target weight was between 30kg and 45kg (a wide range because I did not have any good idea of what it would be), so it looks like I am somewhere within this range. Andy |
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MeMeMeMe69
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Posted: 07/Feb/2011 at 6:30am |
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Fuselage Rear
Well, I had my first formal large model inspection by the LMA (Large Model Association) on Wednesday evening and everything is OK to proceed. So, on with the rest of the fus. Here is a side being made up from cyparis... ![]() Having not built something of this size before I am very keen to ensure it is built exactly straight. I have attached the rear sides to fus front with plastic sheet in the joint so that nothing will stick when I add glue. I have been jigging everything up by first setting up the fus front so that it is stting exactly horizontal side-to side and with the front firewall exactly vertical all with respect to the flat work surface. This way I have been able to use the work surface with a large set square to jig up the tail group before completing the building of the fus rear. This photo shows an 8 foot aluminium straight edge set along the centre line of the fus... ![]() And this pic shows all the use of the set square to jig up the tail group..... ![]() |
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MeMeMeMe69
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Posted: 07/Feb/2011 at 6:44am |
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Tail Group
I am making the tail-group removal for easy transport so the next few photos show how I am attaching everything. This plane has strut wires between the stab, fin and fus so I don't need to worry about anything 'waggling' around. I have made the stab so it sits on the fus and is located by 2 dowels. You can also see a hole in the stab where the leading edge of the fin slots through. You can also see a slot at the rear of the fus where the trailing edge of the fin will slot in..... ![]() To hold the fin in place (which in turn holds the stab in place) I have fitted a captive nut in the leading edge woodwork...... ![]() This nut is then used to pull the fin down onto a fixed cross-member, from under neath the finished fus. This photo shows the cross-member made up ready for fitting to the fus.... ![]() Today I have finished fitting the fin and then competed the upper part of the fus rear. This photo shows the fin being slotted into place...... ![]() And this one shows it fully in place..... ![]() The leading edge of the fin is slid in through a close fitting guide fixed in the fus to give it a solid vertical location. This photo shows this guide and at the bottom you can also see the fixed cross member through which the bolt is fitted to hold the fin in place..... ![]() And here is the fus as it now stands..... ![]() All 3.1m of it........ ![]() |
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MeMeMeMe69
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Posted: 07/Feb/2011 at 6:54am |
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Complete Fuselage
Well here is the latest view of the model ![]() The fus rear is now finished and fitted to the front half wiht all fairings and trim added. ![]() The rudder is operated by a proprietry HobbyKing mounting, fitted such that the arms will operate the rudder from outside the fus... ![]() And underneth the fus there is an access door to get at the servos... ![]() The elevators are controlled by 2 servos each side with one servo controlled form each of the 2 receivers. Each pair of servos is connected by a linkage that allows both to operate giving full surface travel, or just one to operate giving half surface travel. Thus there are 4 servos, mounted side-by-side on 2 rails in the fus..... ![]() And then there are 2 removable hatches under the fus to be able to access the servos.... ![]() |
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MeMeMeMe69
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Posted: 07/Feb/2011 at 7:17am |
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The Wing
Now to the wing. I have had quite some debate as to whether to make the wing 2 piece or 3 piece. A two piece wing would give 2 panels of 7 foot by 26" wide, and eliminate the need for the wing joining tubes. I think a 2 piece wing could be nearly 2 kg's lighter. However, fitting the wing would become rather arduous as the plane would likely have to be held upside down. So, 3 piece it is. Todays task, to make the wing centre section joiner, that sets the dihedral angle. This joiner also take a huge loading, with a 5g loop putting some 150kg load through this! It is made of a box section with cyparis spars top and bottom and 2 sheets of ply either side. Here are the 4 sheets cut ready for assembly... ![]() The pairs of ply are sheets are assembled thus.... ![]() i weighed the parts before and after cutting the holes and the result was nearly 30% off. OK, now I have built the centre wing joiner... ![]() ![]() And now I have started to build the wing centre section. This is about a metre wide and has wing tubes for the outer 2 panels to attach. Because I have used 2 wing tubes either side it is necessary to build the wing panels with the phenolic tube as complete lengths and then cut them later - if they do not end up completely paralell then they will not work!.... ![]() ![]() And at the front are the attachments that latch over a cross-spar built into the fus (and there will be wing bolts at the rear)... ![]() Here is a closer view of the wing tube attachment, showing the reinforcing pieces next to the ribs.... ![]() Because of the 2 wing tubes I have now started to build the first part of the right-hand outer wing panel onto the protruding tubes from the centre section. I have put spacers in so I can cut the phenolic tubes later.... ![]() ![]() Now I have completed the basic structure of the wing centre section I have load tested it. I had aimed to measure the deflection for the load applied and hence be able to calculate the effective modulus and then be able to calculate its breaking load. However, with the method used to load it up I cannot measure deflection acurately enough as it appears to pretty much zero. Load applied is 150kg at the wing centre rib, with the underneath supported across ribs 4 at either side.... This is the wood suppport underneath.. ![]() Here is the set-up on scales ready to load up.. ![]() And here it is with the first 60kg of weigths on, which was then followed by my 92kg standing on it ![]() I chose 150kg as this 5 times the weight of the complete fuselage assembly in a 5g loop. Considering there is lot more structure around the centre as well (and the fact that we do not intend to pull 5g) then this looks fine. |
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MeMeMeMe69
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Posted: 07/Feb/2011 at 7:27am |
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Outer Wing Panels
Now I have strated the outer wing panels. First need to build the spars. I am doing these as a box section, with 25mm by 12.5mm at the centre, tapering down to 25mm by 6mm at the outer end. Here is the first spar tapered..... ![]() And then the 2 box spars completed... ![]() Now, before building into the plane I have performed a simple test that will enable future designs to be perfected. It may be useful if a liabary of wing spar designs and strengths was held somewhere so that builders could call upon it? Since my box spar is tapered, the effective centre load point will be 1/4 of the way out from the thick end. So, I have lifted the thick end up 6mm and then loaded the marked point with weights. I was intending to load it until there was no gap under it (a deflection of 6mm), but after applying 50kg the spar had deflected 2.8mm. The 'batteries' either side of the spar are just for lateral stability to stop it trying to twist sideways... ![]() And here is a close-up showing the gap still under the spar (that 3mm piece of ply still passed under easilly).. ![]() Now, armed with actual data I can calculate the modulus of the spar as built and refine for future designs. |
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