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Hi Karl - Tooo many zeros - I meant 1800mAh - so if the voltage matches and the discharge rate is right I can interchange Li Ion with LiPo. (The balance is not a problem.)
I appreciate your help with this!
I cant say for sure but they both let out dc current at the same current and voltage, but their chargers may be different. I would put this question up on rcgroups or hobbyking's forum just because I don't want anything to explode. That's what I would do. Sorry I couldn't help further than this but I know very little about li ion batteries.
by 18000 im guessing that you mean 1800. If so, it all depends on a couple factors, 1 is will the battery fit. 2 is will it unbalance your helicopter too much, and 3 which is can your motors handle the extra flying time. If you meet the 3 things and it is the same voltage (in this case a 3s 11.1v battery) and it has a high enough discharge rate, then yes. Hope this helps and let me know if something is confusing as I would be happy to help.
Hi Jef, you will have to change connectors to the multiplex type, alternatively you could get an adapter lead or adapter connector either made up or bought ready made if available. you will probably also need an adapter lead for the balance plug when charging.
The max LiPo capacity is 3200mAh. So no problem to order one of these! Additionally there are several options that you can choose from. On the step 3 of the checkout page you can find a detailed description if you click on the LiPo capacity link. Here is an excerpt:
Options are:
1) Order via EMS Express, UPS, DPD, Air Mail, SingPost Air Parcel or DHL if available.
2) Reduce total battery capacity to under 3200mAh.
3) Order from Hobbyking**** DE, US or AU warehouse if available.
simply order the batteries seperatly that is the best way.. make of full order of batteries for a full year..dont put anything else with them to pay shipping for pure batteries :)
Is 4.25v per cell too high for this batt?. Only on third cycle of run in process, charging on e-flite 3s balance charger. I have a new turnigy that is the same.
You should worry about the strength of your gun... You will probably blow out the gears or break the mounts for the gearbox. Don't just put in Lipo's... !!! Also the rate of fire will increase.. and things can jam. Take it slowly and first shoot a couple of single shots..
This battery comes with the standard XT-60 connector as you can see on the picture. But you can of course cut off the connector and solder your own connector to it.
I used to use Dean connectors but i changed all my connectors to the XT-60, first they are easier to sother, they feel more secure and I think they're easier to take apart since they are a little bigger :)
Robert, I use a HiTec Multicharger X4AC primarily so I can charge up to 4 different or the same type of batteries at the same time. It's a little more expensive then most but well worth it.
The connectors are the least of a problem. You can solder on any connector you want, or you have in your gun.
You have to check how much voltage can your gun, or to be exact your motor in the gun, take, becouse this has declared 11.1V, but when it's full it has 12,6V, and if im not wrong, airsoft gun battery has lower voltage, so it could fry your electronics in tge gun.
Its a plane, I'm just copy all the specifications, motor, esc, but I wanna a Turnigy 20c 3S but is not in stock. Can I use this one or wait to come to stock again?
What model do you plan to use it. Plane, Heli, Car? Even then it depends on two things. First, can your motor handle a 3cell battery? Second can your model carry a 2200mAh battery pack. 200grams of weight can be pretty heavy for some planes.
Hi Mannie, firstly you need a proper Lipo charger with cell balancing feature, for an economical one see the IMAX b6 or similar from HK.
This battery is much too big for the La Belle Dame, you need a 2S (7.4v) not a 3S, and lower capacity, the HK site recommends a 1300maH, not 2200maH.
Hope this helps.
I bought 2 of these and they puffed within 50 flights each. The Turnigy's are 2 years old and still rock solid. Your mileage may vary, but I haven't bought a single Zippy since.
Turnigy is supposed to be better than Zippy. Though both are owned, marketed and sold by HobbyKing, but there is a difference in quality. Turnigys are supposed to be better, hence more expensive than Zippys, but there is almost no difference as far as performance is concerned, it's only that Turnigys do last a little longer.It's like Snap-On and Blue point, both owned by same company but different qualities. Hope that answers your question. Cheers!
Turnigy its great price and quality, but is more or less as zippy.
Final quality will depend a lot on the testing unit, and in my experience they both last more than my planes..
The main reason to replace a battery its often its accidents, no its cycles limit. ^_^
They say you should break them all in, but it isn't mandatory. Breaking in should help with over the lifetime of the pack, but they are only $9 so it isn't the end of the world when they become dead. Dan
I would break them in by running them. Start at 5 minutes. Recharge and see how many mAh you put back in. Divide by number of minutes to get mAh/min and you can go from there. I would go to about 70pcnt and check again. A couple times there, and they're broke in! Charge at 1c and don't go above 80pcnt discharge and I've got Zippy batteries with 300 charges and counting.
some kind of break in is required if you want to get the full performance and many cycles out or your pack. I recommend for the first six cycles a charger setting of 3S and 1700 mAh and do not forget to connect the balancer! During this first cycles do not use more than 60pcnt of the capacity. That means your lipo checker should show at least 40pcnt remaining current, mesured immeadatly after running the engine. After that use 2200 mAh to charge and never discharge below 9,9 V means 3,3 V fo
They say you should brake them in but I never did and they work just fine, they still hold ther charge and I've had them for a long time. Pluse they are only like $10 But on the next set I get I am going to properly brake them in
I usually don't max out 100pcnt full the first few times. And definitely don't run them low on power.
But after all they are inexpensive and good batteries anyway.
i never use a battery under 3.7V per cell cause i change many batts, and still i have around 8 damaged not cuase of cycle but accidents..lol it hurts to ruin a nano tech in 1 fligth..
Any1 could tell me what amps I should charge those with?
I'm new to this hobby and since there is no manual I really dont know. Is 5 amps ok for charging??
How many amps should I use to increase the life of this LiPo?
I charge mine at 2.2A and it takes around 20-30 minutes to charge depending how flat it is. It is a the ideal charge rate and the best for the battries life span.
this type of batteries should be charged with a current of 500-1000 mAh to have a longer life time as the internal bonds are broken at very high currents.pls credit me
Normal charge is 2.2 A, ( charging time one hour) for the first cycles use 1.5 to 1.8 A to increse lifetime and performance ( charging time 1,5 hours). During the first cycles do not discharge below 40-50pcnt of the capacity. Never go below 9,9 V means 3.3V each cell. Use the balancer connection to charge
Yes, without any problems. It can give 20 x 2200mA = 44A max (on paper of course, but I use it with 25A ESC & 40A ESC and my engine consume about 20Amps).
You will burn up your esc, using that combination of battery/motor/esc. If you're going to be using a motor running 1900rpm/v, you'd best use a 50 amp esc and then, that 2200mah 3s1p 20c lipo will work out just fine.
It depends on the size of the propeller... the max curent of the lipo = 2.2A x30c = about 60A if the size of your prop does not fit it will be make the motor or esc burn :(
regarde la consomation A-max de ton moteur c'est a partir de ca que tu pourra determiner la caracteritique de ton controleur ainsi que de ton lipo.
si ton moteur ne depasse pas 20A-max
il ne devrait pas y avoir de probleme
No, I'm just starting... and I'm having heavy work days! It's good to know that somebody else is more or less in the same stage of building, maybe we can exchange information. My email: gerardoponcio*hotmail**** send me an email and we can keep in touch.
Buenas pilas, bien balanceadas y no se calientan ni hinchan, yo la usaba en un rally game motor xerum 80 a y motor 2400 kv y de fabula. Buena respuesta y durabilidad
I use 2200 mah 3 cell in my bixler. place the battery far forward to nose, and throw away the 4 big metal ring inside the nose. replace the esc with 40 amp or you can use stock esc but place outside the body for air cooling. I can fly for 25 min
with this battery
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So how do people power all 4 motors on the quadcopter? I would imagine that the only way is to put a splitter in to connect all motors to one battery. The flight time is significantly reduced but there would be too much added weight to add 4 batteries. For instance, the AR-Drone is power by one single battery.
Every Multicopter needs a cable harness to supply power to each ESC.
Depending on weight and driving power, the battery has to be strong enough to handle the drawn current.
2200mAh 20C are suitable for copters up to 900g and typical 45-56g motor size.
However, motor and prop should match. Efficient drive sets would produce 10g thrust with about 1W power input. Such a copter needs about 8-10A to hover and can fly up to 12 minutes.
You can also get a control board designed specifically for quadcopter use with the gyros and such already in place. My quad has a control board and separate ESC.
No, I'm just starting... and I'm having heavy work days! It's good to know that somebody else is more or less in the same stage of building, maybe we can exchange information. My email: gerardoponcio*hotmail**** send me an email and we can keep in touch.
Can I power 4 turnigy motors with this battery? I am powering one by simply plugging it into the ESC. Can I just buy a 4 way splitter for the battery so I can plug the battery into all 4 ESC's?
yes you can, I see you have a quad chopper, probably wont get a long flight time, and you will need a 4 way connection lead to power your 4 esc's and motor's.
My Rotor Concept**** HPQ1 quad claimed a flight time of nearly 20 minutes on a 2200mAh pack. Yeah, right, thought I. However, with quadcopter-specific electronics and this battery, I'm getting darn close to 15 minutes.
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It would work via a splitter, but depending on the motor size it would drain the battery very quickly. I would buy a larger capacity battery if possible, or just a lot of these!
I have had trouble with 3 of the 4 Zippy batteries I bought. One cell failed on each one in a short time. I have many Turnigy batteries & all are fine but the Zippies have been a problem for me.
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No, I'm just starting... and I'm having heavy work days! It's good to know that somebody else is more or less in the same stage of building, maybe we can exchange information. My email: gerardoponcio*hotmail**** send me an email and we can keep in touch.
the discharge means how many ampéres you will ask to your battery, in this case 2200mA x 20C = 44000mAh so 44A, it's the maximum power of the battery. More than this you will burst the battery
The C rating
The C rating is the maximum discharge rate as well as an indication of the batteries internal resistance (higher C lower resistance- more power). As I mentioned earlier my example 3S pack rated at 2200mAh (or 2.2 Amps) could theoretically be discharged at 2200mAh (2.2 A) for one hour (1C). That's really not much of a draw. Most motors want upwards of 40 Amps (40,000mAh or 20C).
The C rating for my example battery is 25C continuous, 35C "climb outs" and 50C max bursts. This is de
the best way to work out the discharge is, say you have a 20c continuous and with a 30c burst. take the 20c and multiply it by the milliamps of your pack,we will use a 2200mah(2.2amps) pack as an example. so take 2.2 and multiply by 20, 2.2x20=44 so continuously supplying 44amps, now with the burst you multiply 2.2x30=66 you now have a 66 amp burst for 10 seconds at full noise. you can work out all C ratings this way.
Hello, peterfarley29. That means you need to drain the remaining power from the battery. Discharge - the process of draining the charge* using the battery to the fullest* not having any juice left in the battery. Batteries wear down after time and can't hold as much time, thats just their nature.
Burst tells you how much power the battery can provide for a few seconds. If you have a 1000mAh battery, 15c would mean that it can deliver 15000 mA for a short period of time.
It's rated to 20C MAX, safe running current is 15C. Discharge is amount of current it can put out constantly, burst is the amount of current it can put out for 5-10 seconds. this battery is good for 33 amps constant and 44amps burst. It may say they are rated to more, but if you push them to their limits they puff up and die real quick
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I am running this pack in my Precision Aerobatics Katana MD with the Trust30 motor and APC 12x6 prop. In flight reading with Eagle Tree are as good if not better than TP packs.
This was on a 10 minute flight: Pack Volts: Min9.95 Max12.48 Avg11.13 Pack Amps: Max41.21 Avg8.29 Watts: Max449.02 Avg89.40
Awesome pack at an awesome price! Vitter
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I have found this battery to be very good in flight and the performance is great also. I have been using this battery in a modified Wild wing from hobby people using an aurora 400F motor and for a 9 min 51 sec flight I have been getting with a 6x3 Master airscrew prop. For watts 0.00 min, max 266.48, ave. 107.76 amps 0.00 min, max 23.75, ave. 9.96 and pack volts 10.31 min, 12.64 max, ave. 10.96 with total used mAh 1250. Using the same motor and with a flight time of 10.5 min using a 6x3 Master airscrew prop. For watts 0.00 min, max 292.30, ave. 101.36 amps 0.00 min, max 24.94, ave. 9.04 and pack volts 10.58 min, 12.58 max, ave. 11.31 with total used mAh 1381. I like this battery a lot and plan to purchase more, and at this price you can’t beat it. These packs out perform all my thunder-power packs. I can get three of these for the price of one thunder-power.
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top rated batts. wonderful price for its performance.
I have 2 running in my trex 450SEs flying intermediate 3d. 1 running with the power hungry scorpion 2221-8 12t and the other with 430xl 13t.
both holds well during maneuvers like inverted funnels, tick toks, pflips etc.
average amp draw 25A with peaks 45A. putting back 1600mAh after about 4.5 mins flight. headspeed ard 3k
60 cycles and still running.
power isnt as ballistic as a tp extreme v2 but it is well worth the money.
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These Chinese cells are good so far. I ran some watt meter comparison tests against my best TP 2200 extreme packs. These Zippy's supplied 80 more watts of power in bursts on the watt meter. Not bad for a pack that is 1/3rd the cost.
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Have only used my new ones twice, but one is in a particularly demanding foam fuselage bird, in hot Australian summer conditions.
Even after a good run at WOT (pulling around 30-33A) these batteries came out all but cool.
Look like good packs - for the moment very happy - will come back and post again if performance drops off.
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