Hobbyking KK2.0 Multi-rotor LCD Flight Control Board
Designed by the Grand father of the KK revolution, Rolf R Bakke, exclusively for HobbyKing, the KK2.0 is the evolution of the first generation KK flight control boards. The KK2.0 was engineered from the ground up to bring multi-rotor flight to everyone, not just the experts. The LCD screen and built in software makes install and setup easier than ever. A host of multi-rotor craft types are pre-installed. simply select your craft type, check motor layout/propeller direction, calibrate your ESCs and radio and your ready to go! all of which is done with easy to follow on screen prompts!
The original KK gyro system has been updated to an incredibly sensitive dual chip 3 Axis gyro and single chip 3 axis accelerometer system making this the most stable KK board ever and allowing for the addition of an Auto-level function. At the heart of the KK2.0 is an Atmel Mega324PA 8-bit AVR RISC-based microcontroller with 32k of memory. An additional 2 motor output channels have been added to the KK2.0 allowing for a total of 8 motors to be controlled (Octocopter). A handy Piezo buzzer is also included with the board for audio warning when activating and deactivating the board.
If your new to multi-rotor flight or have been unsure about how to setup a KK board then the KK2.0 was built for you. The 6 Pin USBasp AVR Programming interface ensures future software updates will be quick and easy.
Specs. Size: 50.5mm x 50.5mm x 12mm Weight: 21 gram (Inc Piezo buzzer) IC: Atmega324 PA Gyro: InvenSense Inc. Accelerometer: Anologue Devices Inc. Auto-level: Yes Input Voltage: 4.8-6.0V AVR interface: standard 6 pin. Signal from Receiver: 1520us (5 channels) Signal to ESC: 1520us Firmware Version: 1.2
Pre-installed firmware. Dualcopter Tricopter Y6 Quadcopter + Quadcopter X Hexcopter + Hexcopter X Octocopter + Octocopter X X8 + X8 X H8 H6 V8 V6 Aero 1S Aileron Aero 2S Aileron Flying Wing Singlecopter 2M 2S Singlecopter 1M 4S (Custom Mix via the "Mixer Editor" option)
The Mixer Editor allows you to adjust where and how much signal the motors receive from stick input and sensors. This allows you to create any configuration possible with up to 8 motors or servos.
Whats is a Multi-Rotor Control board you ask?
The HobbyKing KK2.0 Multi-Rotor controller is a flight control board for multi-rotor Aircraft (Tricopters, Quadcopters, Hexcopters etc). Its purpose is to stabilize the aircraft during flight. To do this it takes the signal from the three on board gyros (roll, pitch and yaw) then passes the signal to the Atmega324PA IC. The Atmega324PA IC unit then processes these signals according the users selected firmware and passes control signals to the installed Electronic Speed Controllers (ESCs). These signals instruct the ESCs to make fine adjustments to the motors rotational speed which in turn stabilizes your multi-rotor craft.
The HobbyKing KK2.0 Multi-Rotor control board also uses signals from your radio systems receiver (Rx) and passes these signals to the Atmega324PA IC via the ail, ele, thr and rud inputs. Once this information has been processed the IC will send varying signals to the ESCs which in turn adjust the rotational speed of each motor to induce controlled flight (up, down, backwards, forwards, left, right, yaw).
Note: A user manual is available under the files tab. *Royalties paid on each unit sold to Rolf R Bakke, the original KK Designer.
Even better question is why can't I order it from UK warehouse while being from Estonia, it is within EU dammit. Anyhow, must be how that have set up shipping although NL and DE warehouses are both OK to order from although small item shipping options are scarce.
Hi I got the board to arm OK but when I try to take off it will turn to the right every time dose not matter how I trim it. I am useing a standard servo not digital for rudder on my tricopter. It worked OK before upgrading the firm ware to 1.5 any help will be appreciated.
I was having this problem as well. I watched a couple of David's videos from flite test and noticed he always has the yaw cocked a little to the right (when viewed from behind) I pulled the horn off my servo and did the same and all was perfect. Hope this helps.
i noticed when i had my tri that if the motor spun the opposite direction than what it shows in the motor layout that it yaws in that direction. Try reversing your motor and prop and see if that fixes it.
BOBDJ, if you have a tri, check both Jason's and Robert's suggestion (I have done the tilt thingy on my tri's too). If it is a quad, then on one of my quads I absentmindedly managed to reverse the front motors. Thus the total torque of motors was not balanced and board could not handle it, quad always slowly kept turning right as you describe no matter what I tried to change on KK board. Mark your arms for motor rotation direction, always check the basic stuff :)
I just built an quadcopter with a kk2. When we tried to fly it i was nearly impossible to control i always drifted to on side left or right. I tried to calibrate esc and the board tried to change setting. Then today I tried to set the autlevelling to off and the quad started to hover and I can control it. It seems that it is on when the board says it is off. Have I done somtething wrong? Anyone got a clue?
first check your pid settings. view the motor layout and make sure your motors are turning the right direction. calibrate the acc on a level surface. check your self level settings as they may be trying to overcorrect so you may need to turn it down or turn it up.
Yes I have done that but my question was why does it seem that the self levelling tool is on when the kk2 board tell me it is off and when I put it on the self levelling tool seems to be off!
When self leveling is on, the controller tries to bring the aircraft back to what it -thinks- is level. When you do the 'calibrate acc' option on the menu, it's recording the offset between gravity, and 'level.'
Calibrate the accelerometers on as close to a level surface as you can find. Lift off the ground a few feet. If the quad drifts forward, land, place some small shims under the front of the quad (fooling it into recording what is =really= level as it's base scalibration) and recalibrate.
Repeat until it hovers in place. It may take a few times.
when powered up the display will show numbers on the bottom of the screen indicating if it is level,not armed,to help in setting the calibrate mode.if the numbers are anything but "zero" then it is not sitting level and do not calibrate then.
Same thing happened to one of my quads (and it was not by far the first quad!). Quad kept rotating to one side no matter what I did. Turned out that I had my front motors reversed :) thus the total torque of motors was not balanced and board could not handle it. Mark your arms, always check the basic stuff :) If the quad still behaves weird (always tries to flip or tilt), must be the motor balance or more likely prop balance issue.
I think we have entered the 4 week now. We currently have 6 builds waiting on flight controllers.
The way I see it. I have two choices:
1) find a multiwii to replace the kk2
2) build a network of hobbyists who can will call at each of the warehouses and have them purchase/ship to me ( I will call from the US warehouse now)
First make sure the KK board is level then in the menu set the acc calibration. Next make sure your motors are all spinning the correct way for the props you have on them. I had this problem with my tricopter and it ended up being the left motor was spinning the wrong way.
Anytime you do a firmware upgrade you need to go through the whole setup and calibration procedure from start to finish just to make sure nothing is different. this includes acc cal and esc throttle calibration.
I did all that. Still having same problem. I even swapped ESC from motor 1 with motor 2. Motor 1 is still slow to respond to throttle, so it's not the ESC. In fact now it powers up through increasing throttle then shuts down at full throttle. If I move very slowly through throttle up, motor 1 doesn't even come on at all. ANYBODY?????
you may need to set up your escs properly. make sure you have them set for nimh, brake is off. do your throttle cal again using buttons 1 and 4. go into misc settings on the board as well and set throttle to 15% instead of 10% and see if that helps.
Nimh = Nickel Metal Hydride. Setting up a multi rotor ESC as lipo (Lithium-Polymer) type battery sets the depleted threshold too high (the cut off voltage where the ESC shuts down because the ESC thinks the battery is near depleted levels). Setting for Nimh is a safer bet. Try swapping motors? Do a reciever check on the KK2 just to make sure stuff is set correctly on your TX. Got your TX set up in Airplane mode (not Heli mode)?
I ended up ***ping the minimum throttle up to 20 (the max). That helped but the RPMs seem a little slow in M1 still. Can that be compensated for in the PI settings once I get it flying? I ruled out the motor, ESCs and power distribution board by switching all of the motors to the KK2 board in reverse order. It was then M4 with te problem. Could only be something internal to the board ( settings, or defect).
If your aileron/elevator changes when you throttle up, then that is your problem. Looks like your transmitter is setup as helicopter and using mix settings. Setup a new model in your transmitter as an airplane, and then do the receiver test again. Perhaps that's why the 1 motor is acting funny, since your ail/ele is moving on its own while your throttling up.
Thanks and anytime. If I were you I would reset the board to factory and start fresh with the new transmitter settings. You don't want any of the settings you've been changing trying to fix the problem causing any unneeded headaches (like bringing the throttle setting back to 10). Good luck and let us know how it went.
Everyone was once a newb. No one was born knowing everything about quadcopters, despite some people acting as if that were the case. So don't sweat it, be patient and take your time learning little by little and you'll end up loving this hobby,
Ok. I reset to factory settings and got my motors spinning on my quad. Motor #3 comes on at about 10% throttle, motors #2 & 4 come on at about 30% throttle and motor #1 doesn't come on until at least 85% throttle. What to do???
sounds like you need to calibrate your ESCs. Press the far left and far right buttons while applying power to the KK2 (all the while your TX is on). Run the throttle from MAX to Min and you'll hear some beeps. There are instructions in the manual but that's the basics. If that doesn't work, make sure you have the same type of ESCs. Make sure your props are off the motors!!
With the board off, turn on your TX and leave the throttle at Max. Now while holding button 1 and 4 power the board, you'll hear a beep, now lower the throttle and you'll hear another confirmation tone. Now the throttle should be calibrated.
No need to arm the board and test without first making sure you have set everything on the board correctly first. Make sure you have selected the correct motor layout, calibrate the esc's throttle (as previously described), calibrate the ACC sensors, and finally doing a receiver test. Then arm the board and make sure the motors are all spinning in the correct directions, then finally placing the proper CW/CCW props onto the appropriate motor locations.
Does or has anyone mounted the KK2.0 on a Y6 Scorpion. Can it be mounted like a dimond with a corner only facing forward? or does it have to be mounted square forward facing only. The mounting holes are diamond shape when centers on the Y6. I really dont want to add new holes and create any stress on the frame or cracks. I do believe the Y6 can handle it thou.
Thats what i thought. I work on fighter aircraft as avionics and answered my own question. But i had to see if their may be a way to program this thing. Off to the drawing board. Ill end up drilling new mounting holes and purchase a new frame piece just in case i get a little squarely on the drill.
I got my quadrocopter together with KK2 board and Turnigy 9X. The KK2 board lights up and runs through the menu fine. The motors are beeping at me. At one point I even got a positive "Reciever Test". But I haven't seen my motors spin yet. Just a lot of beeping and small movements. KK2 not as user friendly as it was cracked up to be. Frustrated! Please help with detailed set up instructions. The "Files" tab is not helpful. It seems to be a combination of settings between the KK2 board and the Transmitter - my best guess. For example, there is the set up in the transmitter for the "Stick" and there is the CCPM Setup in KK2 board for Ail, Ele, Thro, Rud. . .???
Reset to defaults, select Quad plus or quad X in the "load motor layout" menu. Do an ESC calibration (have someone help you hold down buttons 1 and 4 while you apply the battery with the props off of your motors). Once the ESCs beep, reduce the throttle to 0 and they should beep again. Now just hold down/left on your left TX stick (assuming mode2) to arm and you should have throttle response. Check your motor directions and reverse as needed.
Also, use 5 male/male servo leads for initial setup, don't bother with CPPM until you get more experience with the board. As you mention above, the KK2 expects your controls to be connected as AETR on inputs 1-4 and aux on 5.
The KK2 board will not "arm" until after the sensors have been calibrated. Go to the sensor calibration option in the menu and follow the instructions. Use an ESC programming card to set up all your ESC's the same. No need to calibrate the ESC's as long as they all have the same settings on the programming card.
Also, you have to move throttle stick down and right to "Arm" the board, not left as previously described. Moving the throttle stick down and to the left will disarm the board with the screen displaying "Safe".
ron, The best thing to do is to go to the files tab above, click on it, and select the "HK User Manual KK2.0". This manual not only illustrates how to wire the board, it tells how to configure it once it's wired. Hope this helps and Happy flying!
Hi I am new to this
I have build an Talon quad with kk 2,0 multiboard.
After an hard landning I had to disassambly it to adjust an motormount when I put it togheter engine 2 wont run. When I moved the conector to engine 3 it works? Any ideas what can be wrong? Everything looks alright!
You are saying that you connect the same motor/esc from motor 2 that doesn't work into motor 3 on the board and then it works? If thats the case I would maybe reload the motor config in the board and retest.
Hello. I have a quadcopter with KKMulticopter v5.5 board. Im confused..is it the same manufacturer with this? Im new to multicopters(real plane pilot here :) ).. will i see any improvements if i use this board? Will the flight be improved? Thanks
i switch from the kkmulticopter to this board and i was incredibly happy in doing so. with the onboard lcd you can edit your PID settings in the field and it is easy to set up. much better board i think and has pre loaded frame types for multiple types of copters. also has built in battery monitor and self leveling which makes flying a little easier for beginners.
Hi. Thanks for ur reply. I try to take off my quadcopter but when ota like half meter from the ground it yaws to the left like crazy... then i trim it from my controller to the right one click and it yaws to the right..it drives me crazy.. do u think with this board ii will have no problem or its the ground effect which causes this?(is there ground effect in RCs???) Im a noob in Rcs.. thanks
Sounds like a esc calibration issue. Did you do the esc calibration on the board? its done by putting throttle at full position with kk board off. Hold buttons 1 and 4 on board and power on. Should show calibration screen, once you hear beeps put throttle down and after beep power down board.
hi,, there are no buttons in my board..its the kkmulticopter 5.5..there are only 3 "screws"..one for roll one for yaw and one for pitch... it looks like this www.link (i found this photo on the web and i uploaded it to imageshack so i dont "spam"). So you think i need to calibrate the escs?
the problem is all the good parts are out of stock.. :/ i will keep checking.. i would order in backorder but i read somewhere smoeone ordered in backorder and the item wasnt back instock even after 3 months....
Well the real problem is when the items come back in stock and deplete immediately due to everyone who back ordered gets their item first, obviously, Personally, I have 3 on backorder, so when they do become available I won't have to worry about missing the boat! Hey, you can always buy them on eBay for a serious markup if you can't wait...lol. Good luck and enjoy the hobby!
most likely the unstable quadcopter tries to over correct any movements made using your controls. you need to stable it out and make sure you minimize any vibrations. if your quad has the correct center of gravity then make sure your PID settings are correct or adjust accordingly.
English: WOW WOW WOW The best and cheaper flight controller for multicopter and not. You can find thousand pages on internet for calibrate it. The controller have the last firmware installed. (the my have 1.2 firmvare). I have ordered 3 of it, both for my 70cm outdoor and 23cm indoor quadcopter.
Italiano: WOW WOW WOW Il controllore di volo migliore e più economico per multicopter e non. È possibile trovare migliaia di pagine su internet per calibrarlo. Il controllore ha l'ultimo firmware installato. (la mia ha la Ver 1,2 di firmvare). Ne ho ordinato 3 schede, sia per il mio quad da 70cmper il volo all'aperto che il micro da 23 cm.
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Got the board today, looks state of art but, not all functions working, went to sensor test option and it showed all ACC sensors OK and on gyro X and Y ok but Z-not Ok, tried to calibrate on horizontal non moovable table-but it keept failing...So believe the gyro sensor on Z axes faulty-already second board in my collection that I believe wasn't checked properly by QC
Will try to look into other settings,maybe find something what causing it,
otherwise would try to look for replacement...
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facilissima da usare settaggi veloci e intuitivi, tutte le configurazioni gia
memorizzate ho realizzato il mio primo x copter in 2 giorni e ora ne ho ordinata una seconda per un tricottero... nessuna programmazione al pc
looks great no programming needed i hope that it will be back in stock soon and i hope that hk will provide a version with magnetic compass in it
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Over all this is a great board with many features that are easy to access. The added screen makes all configuration dummy proof and accelerometers help with unwanted drift. You can also use the custom mixer for any crazy ideas that may not have an existing program.
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