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  Quote Daithi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09/Jun/2012 at 9:36pm
Fusion, it simply took ONE incident in Scotland to result in a ban on private possession of all hand guns and semi-automatic weapons right across the board. This included .22 target pistols and semi-auto shotguns.

Is this what you want to see happening to rc model aircraft?
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  Quote blusky1 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01/Jul/2012 at 5:54am
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I hate to break it to you his foamy plane is like a moped it doesn't require any of that the fact you are treating it like a real plane is laughable and testament to your ignorance

I keep a lawyer on retainer for people like you

Please state your laws and sight exact laws that pertain to model aircraft not real air craft and codes with lawyer expert legalize in regards to model air craft or be gone =)

Now if his Foamy breaks 100,000,000 to 1 odds and takes down a jet plane he will be in allot of trouble but I think he might win the lotto first =)

Ill make my oppion clear on that whole fire arm argument criminals kill each other every day with guns in the USA that wont give the government the right to take them away from the rest of us.
Maybe in your country you dont have the balls to stand up but people like me certainly do.

I quote the best phrase on that topic

"FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS"


PS Daithi: there had already been one FBI take down in the USA with terrorist and the intent to use C4 in model air craft.

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/44715318/ns/today-today_news/t/feds-alleged-terror-plotter-never-posed-threat-


So its already happened in the USA and there is no ban as you say maybe in other countries that let themselves be disarmed this might fly but not in the Yankees play ground.

I will not have my freedom stolen by terrorist =)


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  Quote Daithi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01/Jul/2012 at 6:42am
Blu - if you are a lawyer, I'd suggest you go back to law school. The regulations set out by the CAA in every country (the Federal Aviation Authority in your case) stipulate the mandatory heights for airlanes - models are restricted to under 400 feet (or the metric equivalent). Full size aircraft are restricted from flying below 500 feet except during take off and landing.

For a model to fly above 400 feet requires both clearance from the CAA of the country where the flight takes place and also requires ATC co-operation (to avoid any danger to full size aircraft)

As for damage - a hat sucked into the intake of a jet engine wrecked it. You also show a complete lack of knowledge of kinetic energy - a collision between a 500 gramme model and a full size aircraft travelling at 5 - 600 mph isn't something that just causes a paint scrape.

If you want regulations (which you seem to be unable to look up), I'd sugegst you ask the FAA regarding "Unmanned Aircraft Operations in the National Airspace System"

I'm afraid your lack of knowledge regarding either model aircraft, physics and even the laws and regulations of your own country is completely beyond any possible epithet that could be applied
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  Quote airwave Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01/Jul/2012 at 6:54am
blusky1, .50cal for life
as for the OP great video,Get the permit and have a ball.they can grant a weaver for this type of flight as well as high power rockety.There is a safe and fun way to do it.Would love to see it (modle aircraft sets new record)

PS check out bird strike on youtube for full size planes that go 5~600
at cruse hight 25,000 feet to 30,000 feet.Landing and take off speed is
a lot less than this and the reason FFA and FBI looked at modle rockets so hard to see if they were a threat,The biggest they were able to product was burning your car to ashes from the high power rocket motors .N size

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  Quote blusky1 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01/Jul/2012 at 7:30am
Originally posted by Daithi

Blu - if you are a lawyer, I'd suggest you go back to law school. The regulations set out by the CAA in every country (the Federal Aviation Authority in your case) stipulate the mandatory heights for airlines - models are restricted to under 400 feet (or the metric equivalent). Full size aircraft are restricted from flying below 500 feet except during take off and landing.

For a model to fly above 400 feet requires both clearance from the CAA of the country where the flight takes place and also requires ATC co-operation (to avoid any danger to full size aircraft)

As for damage - a hat sucked into the intake of a jet engine wrecked it. You also show a complete lack of knowledge of kinetic energy - a collision between a 500 gramme model and a full size aircraft traveling at 5 - 600 mph isn't something that just causes a paint scrape.

If you want regulations (which you seem to be unable to look up), I'd sugegst you ask the FAA regarding "Unmanned Aircraft Operations in the National Airspace System"

I'm afraid your lack of knowledge regarding either model aircraft, physics and even the laws and regulations of your own country is completely beyond any possible epithet that could be applied


Again not a single law just more bull from someone full of bull who needs to go away



maybe your so dumb you need someone to define the words voluntary& encourages ask your mom she is right upstairs as you obviously live in her basement



if you want to push it any further Please have legal documents to back up your lies

if you have nothing to back up your words but more troll forum swep than save it clown


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  Quote Daithi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01/Jul/2012 at 8:03am
Model Aircraft
Recreational use of the NAS is covered by FAA Advisory Circular (AC) 91-57, which generally limits operations to below 400 feet above ground level and away from airports and air traffic.

and

The COA authorizes an operator to use defined airspace and includes special provisions unique to the proposed operation. For instance, a COA may include a requirement to operate only under Visual Flight Rules (VFR) and/or only during daylight hours. Most COAs are issued for a specified time period (up to one year, in most cases).

(FAA regulation document)

Go ask the FAA
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  Quote airwave Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01/Jul/2012 at 8:21am
Boys,Boys I don't even know were the He77 (IL) is and can't say what the law may be,could simply take you out back and shoot ya.

PS if you look at the sites i fly you will see both 1) a school and 2) an airport at the nitro site.It olso showes just how out dated this is.
noise for the school?? If i get my beaver 400 feet you can't even hear it or see it for that matter.From the under standing we have 400 feet is the limit,the other is acktions to take if a full size plane is there.We also have the people jumping from a good plane to deal with

and just were would this fall out
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  Quote blusky1 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01/Jul/2012 at 8:46am
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Merely what this means and I have had REAL legal counsel in regards to this topic
You can fly over non restricted air space however if you go above 400 feet if anything goes wrong its your booty

if you where flying the model with in the "guidelines" and wrecked into jimmys house you would be responsible for the damage done and the wreck would be considered no one at fault accident

If you where flying the model beyond the "guidelines" and a wreck occurred you can be held in court as reckless and at fault facing criminal charges for any damage done

The point is these are guidelines they are not Laws.
The point further is in any accident that property or people are harmed the law is always looking to lay blame if you had exceeded the guidelines you will be blamed

The claim going over 400 feet is illegal is lie
it is not recommend and you will get in hot water if anything goes wrong where property or people are harmed while exceeding 400F

Again this applies to the USA

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  Quote CaleyD Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01/Jul/2012 at 7:42pm
Daithi, you are talking nonsense on the regulations regarding the 400 foot flight ceiling for model aircraft. That only applies to models weighing more than 7kg flying in uncontrolled airspace. For all intents and purposes, the rules pertaining to models below that weight are pretty much "you must not endanger people or property"...with some distances applied in regards to being near congested areas or when operating within controlled airspace. What we have is a catch all which places responsibility with the operator of the plane to make sure they are using common sense....i.e. a regulation designed to make people think about what they are doing instead of trying to regulate for every possible scenario.

Having had this discussion with commercial pilots and RAF pilots and they laugh at the idea of anything under 7kg being able to take down a full size plane. At worst you'd take out an engine if you had a gas/nitro engine being sucked through it....but that should not be sufficient to bring down a plane. If it does, then there's something wrong with the plane!!!

Birds pose far more of a risk to full size planes than an individual sub 7kg plane ever will.

The CAA guidance for models of all sizes is actually pretty straight forward and sensible, whilst allowing people to enjoy the sport to a fairly large extent and even push the envelope a bit if they so desire.

Here's a link to the CAA paper - http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/33/CAP658.PDF
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  Quote Daithi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01/Jul/2012 at 9:31pm
Ask your pilot friends what happebned to the Vulcan when a bag of silica gel was sucked into the intake recently and tell me that again.

As for the regulations - read a bit further along:

3.1 The ANO contains the regulations that apply to all aircraft including model aircraft and large model aircraft. The regulations are contained in a number of articles. The ANO can be obtained online at www.caa.co.uk/cap393.

166.3 The person in charge of a small unmanned aircraft must maintain direct, unaided visual contact with the aircraft sufficient to monitor its flight path in relation to other aircraft, persons, vehicles, vessels and structures for the purpose of avoiding collisions.

Now explain to me how you can maintain 'direct visual contact' at over 400 feet altitude?
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