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  Quote Erikcramer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: New Quad copter where to start ?
    Posted: 28/Apr/2012 at 5:21am
Hi,

Im Erik and im kind of new to the whole models and remote controlling.

I've build a quad copter with the list supplied bij help with the hobbyking personal see :


    Talon Quadcopter
    Board
    http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=19534
    3 x BEC Eliminator
    http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=21496
    Male to Male
    http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__21758__10CM_Male_to_Male_Servo_Lead_JR_26AWG_10pcs_set_.html
    Battery
    http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=7635
    12awg wire
    http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=9673
    http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=9674
    4mm bullet with covers
    http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=9283
    2 x 3.5mm
    http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=68
    Shrink Wrap
    http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=3833
    4x ESC
    http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__2161__TURNIGY_Plush_12amp_2A_BEC_BESC.html
    4 x Motor
    http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__8617__Turnigy_2730_Brushless_Motor_1300kv.html
    2 x Prop
    http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=11331


Because the radio they sugested was sold out i have borrowed the radio + receiver from my cousin.

I've set up all the parts together.
Ive flashed the bord with a KK firmware, wired all the escs to the motors drilled out the motors because they didnt fit.(the metal holes.)

i've looked up the ports of the receiver with my cousin and we connected the apropiate wires to the bords apropiate ports.

We had one moter running yesterday because sudenly it worked and then nothing worked any more.

When i power up the bord the red light blinks once then it turns off (i think it has to stay on not certain.)
And the esc beeps 1234 Beep beep beep   Beep.   this is when the radio is on and off.

I think there is a connection between the radio and the receiver because when i turn on the radio the light on the receiver blinks once and goes on.

I understand i have to take some steps still before i can put the propellers on but im kind of lost on where to go now and what to do.
Is there some one who can help me out into the general direction where to go.

If some one is having trouble with the frame i've posted a how to over here: http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__22397__Turnigy_Talon_Carbon_Fiber_Quadcopter_Frame.html

or direct link


How to frame

Edited by Erikcramer - 28/Apr/2012 at 6:01am
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  Quote SubcultureD Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28/Apr/2012 at 4:55pm
Hi Eric,
I too have a Talon (and a few others). Just a few thoughts to get you going again:
- put the esc's of the motors directly in the throttle port of the receiver and calibrate the endpoints of the ecs's. They are the same but have small differences in settings. Also check the softstart,number of lipo's, battery check and so on. They should be all the same.
- check the pins if the right servoleads go the right pins of the board.
- check left and right yaw, since you have to arm/disarm the board by taking the throttle down and put input left or right to arm/disarm the board/motors.
- is the throttle up really up?

Just a few thoughts,

Best regards,

Danny
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  Quote Erikcramer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28/Apr/2012 at 7:07pm
Bedankt Danny,


If i connect the esc in one of the port of the receiver.
They kind of work they beep and some times i get them to spin up(but in reverse of the remote control.)

- check the pins if the right servoleads go the right pins of the board.
The pins are correct i checked those.


How do i check/do the following :

- put the esc's of the motors directly in the throttle port of the receiver and calibrate the endpoints of the ecs's. They are the same but have small differences in settings. Also check the softstart,number of lipo's, battery check and so on. They should be all the same.

- check left and right yaw, since you have to arm/disarm the board by taking the throttle down and put input left or right to arm/disarm the board/motors.
- is the throttle up really up?
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  Quote SubcultureD Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29/Apr/2012 at 4:33pm
OK:
The esc's should be checked and calibrated using the manual on the HK site. You can find it when you open the esc page and click on the files tab. There are easier ways to set it up then the "follow the beeps" way. I bought a programmer card after a few helicopters (and quads and tricopters use 3 or 4 esc's).

The yaw/throttle can be checked by trying to arm the board. Pull the throttle down and push the yaw left. You should see a red led light up. Pull the throttle down and yaw left, the led goes off.

If left of right yaw is reversed, just change it in the transmitter. If the led doesn't come on, try it in the up position and change accordingly.

Good luck,

Danny

PS: where in NL are you?
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  Quote Erikcramer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04/May/2012 at 5:49am
Im in diemen near amsterdam.

I tryed arming the board with the throttle but i think i had the mixing switches on and had to lower the trim.

I read the manual of the controller here:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/60029560/Esky-ET6I-Transmitter-Manual
and switched every thing to default.

I have gotten 3 mothers to spin up 1 is not working, it wants to spin but its shiffering. so ill check wires tomorrow i think. (was broken wire :D)

the others don't spin up all at the same time to i think that because of the esc not being configured or am i wrong ? some takea long time i have to put the throtle all the way up.

Arming the board i have to put it to the left in deed, but disarming is to the right.

Originally posted by SubcultureD

OK:
The esc's should be checked and calibrated using the manual on the HK site. You can find it when you open the esc page and click on the files tab. There are easier ways to set it up then the "follow the beeps" way. I bought a programmer card after a few helicopters (and quads and tricopters use 3 or 4 esc's).

The yaw/throttle can be checked by trying to arm the board. Pull the throttle down and push the yaw left. You should see a red led light up. Pull the throttle down and yaw left, the led goes off.

If left of right yaw is reversed, just change it in the transmitter. If the led doesn't come on, try it in the up position and change accordingly.

Good luck,

Danny

PS: where in NL are you?
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  Quote ask21 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01/Jun/2012 at 1:14am
Originally posted by Erikcramer

Hi,

Im Erik and im kind of new to the whole models and remote controlling.

I've build a quad copter with the list supplied bij help with the hobbyking personal see :


    Talon Quadcopter
    Board
    http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=19534
    3 x BEC Eliminator
    http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=21496
    Male to Male
    http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__21758__10CM_Male_to_Male_Servo_Lead_JR_26AWG_10pcs_set_.html
    Battery
    http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=7635
    12awg wire
    http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=9673
    http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=9674
    4mm bullet with covers
    http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=9283
    2 x 3.5mm
    http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=68
    Shrink Wrap
    http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=3833
    4x ESC
    http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__2161__TURNIGY_Plush_12amp_2A_BEC_BESC.html
    4 x Motor
    http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__8617__Turnigy_2730_Brushless_Motor_1300kv.html
    2 x Prop
    http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=11331


Because the radio they sugested was sold out i have borrowed the radio + receiver from my cousin.

I've set up all the parts together.
Ive flashed the bord with a KK firmware, wired all the escs to the motors drilled out the motors because they didnt fit.(the metal holes.)

i've looked up the ports of the receiver with my cousin and we connected the apropiate wires to the bords apropiate ports.

We had one moter running yesterday because sudenly it worked and then nothing worked any more.

When i power up the bord the red light blinks once then it turns off (i think it has to stay on not certain.)
And the esc beeps 1234 Beep beep beep   Beep.   this is when the radio is on and off.

I think there is a connection between the radio and the receiver because when i turn on the radio the light on the receiver blinks once and goes on.

I understand i have to take some steps still before i can put the propellers on but im kind of lost on where to go now and what to do.
Is there some one who can help me out into the general direction where to go.

If some one is having trouble with the frame i've posted a how to over here: http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__22397__Turnigy_Talon_Carbon_Fiber_Quadcopter_Frame.html

or direct link


How to frame


Erihcramer:
Please: why is necessary this item for?:
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=21496

Thank you
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  Quote Sooty Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01/Jun/2012 at 6:51am
Erik - why don't you research the Quadcopter section of this forum which, surprisingly, is dedicated to quadcopter setup problems like yours?

The questions you are asking have been asked and dealt with there many times.

If you get a copy of the KK Quadcopter manual (not the HK Manual which is only fit to hang on the back of the dunny door)and follow it step by step from beginning to end you will have a machine that will actually fly.
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  Quote Erikcramer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03/Jun/2012 at 12:47am
Originally posted by ask21

Originally posted by Erikcramer

Hi,

Im Erik and im kind of new to the whole models and remote controlling.

I've build a quad copter with the list supplied bij help with the hobbyking personal see :


    Talon Quadcopter
    Board
    http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=19534
    3 x BEC Eliminator
    http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=21496
    Male to Male
    http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__21758__10CM_Male_to_Male_Servo_Lead_JR_26AWG_10pcs_set_.html
    Battery
    http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=7635
    12awg wire
    http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=9673
    http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=9674
    4mm bullet with covers
    http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=9283
    2 x 3.5mm
    http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=68
    Shrink Wrap
    http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=3833
    4x ESC
    http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__2161__TURNIGY_Plush_12amp_2A_BEC_BESC.html
    4 x Motor
    http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__8617__Turnigy_2730_Brushless_Motor_1300kv.html
    2 x Prop
    http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=11331


Because the radio they sugested was sold out i have borrowed the radio + receiver from my cousin.

I've set up all the parts together.
Ive flashed the bord with a KK firmware, wired all the escs to the motors drilled out the motors because they didnt fit.(the metal holes.)

i've looked up the ports of the receiver with my cousin and we connected the apropiate wires to the bords apropiate ports.

We had one moter running yesterday because sudenly it worked and then nothing worked any more.

When i power up the bord the red light blinks once then it turns off (i think it has to stay on not certain.)
And the esc beeps 1234 Beep beep beep   Beep.   this is when the radio is on and off.

I think there is a connection between the radio and the receiver because when i turn on the radio the light on the receiver blinks once and goes on.

I understand i have to take some steps still before i can put the propellers on but im kind of lost on where to go now and what to do.
Is there some one who can help me out into the general direction where to go.

If some one is having trouble with the frame i've posted a how to over here: http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__22397__Turnigy_Talon_Carbon_Fiber_Quadcopter_Frame.html

or direct link


How to frame


Erihcramer:
Please: why is necessary this item for?:
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=21496

Thank you


Its not, i got it because i was told i would need it but you dont need it at all. i can regenerate a list of part i really needed if you want.
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  Quote Erikcramer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03/Jun/2012 at 1:38am
Originally posted by Sooty

Erik - why don't you research the Quadcopter section of this forum which, surprisingly, is dedicated to quadcopter setup problems like yours?

The questions you are asking have been asked and dealt with there many times.

If you get a copy of the KK Quadcopter manual (not the HK Manual which is only fit to hang on the back of the dunny door)and follow it step by step from beginning to end you will have a machine that will actually fly.

Im thinking about making some how to when i have time for all the newbies like because its quiet hard to find exact information about every thing.
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  Quote ask21 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04/Jun/2012 at 12:44am

Erikcramer:
Please: why is necessary this item for?:
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=21496

Thank you[/QUOTE]

Its not, i got it because i was told i would need it but you dont need it at all. i can regenerate a list of part i really needed if you want. [/QUOTE]

Yes, OK? Can you put the LIST, please? Thank you
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