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  Quote Warren Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11/May/2009 at 7:09pm
Originally posted by Spudman

I have to say people, please be realistic.  I have owned AXI motors and seen a dozen other top brand motors die. Motors that have burnt out due to QA problems in manuacture of the windings.  SH1T happens people.  I use several Turnigy SK series from 28mm to 55mm and still drive a couple of AXI 2826 and have had no further problems with either brand. Turnigy seems to be excellent value for money against the more expensive brands. Quality can not be determined by price. Extended warranty is just a good marketing tool for expensive brands becuase you dont get anything nowadays for nothing. happy days


Totally agree Clap. I have bought turnigy motors for all my planes and have never had any issues they are top quality and the price can't be beaten. I have run them in anything from pylon racers to big gliders and have always been happy with the performance. I have tried both axi and hyperion motors and haven't noticed much difference. Sure hyperion offer a 40% discount on a replacement if your motor is damaged in a crash but when you pay $150 Aus for a motor you can get at hobby king for half the price, you can buy two for the price of one. That way you have one as a spare just in case some thing goes wrong and i stress just in case. Not likely in my experience.

Just my experience and opinion.
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  Quote speedy72vega Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15/May/2009 at 10:34am
Well, i'm glad some of you have had good luck with the Turnigy brand, but like they say, first impressions are most important.
I'm going to suck it up and pay to ship my motor back for warranty repair/exchange and see what happens with the new one.............
Hopefully I will get one that works this time, but after paying for return shipping, the price is getting closer to what I would have paid for a decent more known brand.
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  Quote speedy72vega Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15/May/2009 at 9:14pm
I understand that all brands have problems FROM TIME TO TIME, but all the complaints I have read about the large Turnigy motors are the same. I am in the automotive business, so I definitely understand about intermittant problems, but I also understand when something is built very poorly, and are prone to frequent failures.
Bad vibrations and magnets coming loose are just poor quality materials and workmanship.
I am not new to electronics, as I work with engine management systems every day. I used an E-flite watt meter when I set up this motor, with a 14x12 prop and 2 3s1p LiPo's in series, the draw was only about 33 amps at 700 watts static at full throttle. According to motor specs, this should have been WELL within comfortable limits.
I also tried timing at both 12 and 20 degrees, no change. Little pieces of the glue for the magnets started flying off, then one of the magnets slid down and started hitting the lower case.
It is also very wrong of HK to require the customer to pay for the return shipping when one of their products fail on the very first use!!!! EVERY other online hobby store I deal with will pay to have the product returned if they verify there was no fault of the customer.
I have a Spektrum DX6i TX that was involved in the recall. They sent me a UPS call tag, PRE PAID!!!, and also sent me back a free 6100 RX with the TX because of the inconvenience!
Now THAT is customer service.
SOOOOO........I'm going to suck it up, and pay even more money to ship the motor back to you, and HOPEFULLY i'll get a good motor this time. Is HK going to charge me to ship my motor back to me too?????
 
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  Quote speedy72vega Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15/May/2009 at 9:35pm
That's all very well and good liveforphisics, I understand your desire to make sure everything is assembled correctly. But in my situation, there wasn't any exterior evidence that there was anything wrong with the housing or glue for the magnets. It was the high pitch frequency/vibration in my opinion that caused the weak glue to fail. As far as regluing the magnets on an outrunner, the amounts of glue would need to be PRECISELY measured, as failure to do so would certainly result in an out-of-balance issue.
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  Quote Biggerheli Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18/May/2009 at 11:28am
Speedy72vega,
 
perhaps read all posts and respond in one hit ;-)
 
As for the quality problems, you have stated that you are in the Auto game... as such you know that every brand kicks out lemons that don't work perfectly first go.  There is an incredible number of very satisfied users with Turnigy motors (myself included).
 
Whilst I don't agree with the idea that you have to spend big $$ to get something good, I do think that you have bought at bargain rates yet expect to hold them to the highest standard and are upset that in your case, they failed. 
 
Finally - you spoke of a product recall with a UPS tag being issued....   has your motor been recalled? no .. then your comparison is useless??
 
HK sell things at rock bottom prices, they had stated previously they run the returns policy this way to ensure they only receive genuine returns. Postage to and from the US is expensive, I don't see how your complaint is totally justified - they didn't exactly pull the wool over your eyes and then say 'surprise'... you knew the terms of your purchase and you still bought it.
 
Mate I agree it is unfortunate that you scored a bum motor, but as for the rest... I fail to see how your complaints are justified.
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  Quote speedy72vega Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18/May/2009 at 9:00pm
OK, I'll answer you back point for point also, because obviously you didn't read my posts thoroughly.
Yes, i'm in the auto business, and as I stated in my post, I UNDERSTAND intermittant failures, and I also understand CRAPPY workmanship/materials. You buy a Ford, Chevy, Toyota, Honda, etc. sure you're gonna have problems from time to time. That's the nature of human made products. BUT.......You buy a Yugo, Kia, Hyundai (although Hyundai has gotten somewhat better than when they first came out), you are going to get crap, no matter what you spend. BUT!!!!!!Even those crappy cars still operate good enough for the customer to at least DRIVE them for a bit before they have problems. The motor I got was crap right out of the box, and every post i've read on the large Turnigy motors state the same types of concerns. One of the club members I fly with here locally has had the same problem, but he finally got a working motor after a few attempts.
 
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I never said you have to spend top dollar, did I???????? HOWEVER! I DO expect a product to at least WORK, is that what you call 'highest standards'????? If I shouldn't care if something that I paid my hard earned money for doesn't work, and not get upset as you stated, then I might as well go stand on a corner and throw $52.00 to everyone that walks by and not care. Your statement is ridiculous. I'm glad you have had good luck with Turnigy, but until I get one that actually works, i'm not convinced. And if you don't at least see that as a fair opinion, then nothing I or anyone else say will ever get through to you.
 
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As far as the recalled product, I was making a point about quality customer service. And YES, I have also not had to pay return shipping on non-recalled product failures also. Go look at RC Universe forums and see how John at Nitro Planes handles faulty products for an example. If you build and market a product, and then take people's money for that product, it should at least WORK.
 
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If you want to believe that their return policy is to ensure legitimate concerns, well, that is up to you. If you buy something that costs $20.00 or example, and it will cost you $20.00 to return it for warranty issues, it's pretty clear that you're not going to send it back. I think the right way to handle that situation is to have the customer return the product at their expense, and if the product is found to be defective, then the postage should be returned to the customer. If the product was damaged by customer abuse, well then you're out the money. That's only fair.
My complaints are justified because i'm not the only one with the same complaint. Take some time to read the forums, and you'll find that the large motors have issues. HK needs to look into these issues and either get the manufacturer to improve, or look for another supplier. Every concern I have read with the large motors has something to do with magnets coming loose, read them for yourself. It is very obvious to anyone with even a small amount of mechanical knowledge that something that spins at the RPM range, and at the torque levels of these outrunners, that the glue needs to be of high strength, and that the rotating assy needs to be precision balanced.
I see you're screen name has to do with heli's. If you don't believe me about balance, why don't you try taping a penny to the end of one of your main rotor blades and go fly. Tell me what happens next!!!
 
Yes, it is unfortunate that I got a 'bum motor' as you put it, but i'm going to try to warn as many people as possible so that they don't make the same mistake I did by spending money (even though it's not 'TOP DOLLAR')on products that don't work out of the box.
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  Quote dude7422 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23/May/2009 at 9:14pm
hay i have to think twice before i order from hobby king any more to many BAD PARTS,
  NO CUSTOMER SERVICE THE PHONE NUMBERS A ARE THE BIGGERS JOKE  DONT WORK LOL
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  Quote speedy72vega Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24/May/2009 at 4:12am
Originally posted by dude7422

hay i have to think twice before i order from hobby king any more to many BAD PARTS,
  NO CUSTOMER SERVICE THE PHONE NUMBERS A ARE THE BIGGERS JOKE  DONT WORK LOL
 
Dude7422, I think that some purchases through HK are just fine.....for example, when I ordered the motor that this post was about, I also ordered a motor mount, y-harness, and 4 LiPo Zippy batteries. Everything else besides the motor has been great. I think, however, it's a good idea to stay away from the cheap, crappy motors and ESC's. I have never used any of their servo's either, i'm just not going to risk a plane worth several hundered dollars on $2.99 servos. Just my opinion.
I'm definitely not going to stop buying from HK, but will most certainly limit my purchases to items that have good feedback from now on.
I sent my Turnigy motor back this week, let's see how long it takes them to send me a new one, and if the new one is even going to work.Confused
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  Quote dude7422 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25/May/2009 at 3:24am
speedy72vega how much was it to send the motor back i have a esc to ship back
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  Quote speedy72vega Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25/May/2009 at 3:59am
I sent the motor back throu USPS standard package rate. Including the soft envelope, it was about $13.50. Bad thing is, you get no tracking number, delivery confirmation, nothing. 7-10 day delivery time. The next cheapest was express mail, that was $29.00. That's more than half the cost of the motor!!!!! 2 day air with delivery confirmation would have been $76.00!!!!!!
I think Hobby King knows that most people won't pay the expense of returning stuff, that's why they keep selling crappy products. They SHOULD do the HONORABLE thing and return the postage if it is clearly a defective part, but i'm not going to hold my breath on that one.
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