Yes, it is perfectly fine for a 1kg airplane, but don't expect 3D flying. Acrobatic fly should not be a problem. If you want more performance you may consider a little bit bigger motor for the job. Maybe something close to 100g motor weight (yes more heavy is the motor , and more power it can handle)
Sorry I can't help with a replacement shaft, but on my motor when the shaft snapped I put a 3mm collet on it, if you look just above this question there's a a purple "FILES" tab if you look in there you will see what I had to do, I hope this may be of some help to you.
the prop is allready fitted on a motor mount with gear, lets say 50teeth, so i need the motor with a tiny gear ,about 15 teeth, to get lower rpm and higher torgue. this 2200kv seems to have enough power at 3s.. though it ha sonly 1 cm available shaft length. i guess i have to order some bigger xtra props and try to find the best combination. thanx Ralf
I don't have the plane in front of me, the description says 28mm motor? 25mm is pretty small for a 150-200watt motor, ... what gearbox?? do you mean collet for propeller?? this motor is cheap $8, maybe you should by it if you need the shaft length, here's another to consider, PRODUCT ID: D2826-62200, it's a 300watt motor, it's about the same price, fgih I think you should ask this question on motor size on the predator description you may get some one who's built one in that discussion.
Hi, wondering if anyone can tell me why the 1400 kv in the same motor has 880g thrust but this the 1650 kv has only 520g thrust!
The 1230 (150W)311g thrust
1400 (210W)880g thrust
1650 (250W)520g thrust
No, not really, In the picture it looks like you need the shaft out the other end of the motor like this one, PRODUCT ID: NTM2836-1800, and 40-50amp esc depending how hard you push it, It's 180 watts with a 6x4 prop on it which should be plenty for 900grms
Yes, you could use this motor, it will be very quick plane this motor is 250watts, I have this motor on my teksumo 900grms it has unlimited vertical and very quick with a 8x4 propeller, another motor for you to consider is the AXN floater jet replacement motor, It's about $8 and it's about 180watts suit's a 6x4 propeller it's PRODUCT ID: AXN-2208-2150, it may suit you more not quite as power full but would easily lift a 600gm plane.
Thank you actuallay i preffer stable speed more than too much speed. Because i am new in this hobby and i dont wa t to loose control. I also found turnigy L2210-1400 and L2210-1230 but i am not sure. I will also look for your reccomendation but can u sare your idea about mentioned motors too. And propellers tbat i should choose.
I looked at both your suggested motors and I think they are also a good choice, normally the lower the KV of the motor Means a larger propeller, I would select your L2210-1400kv with a 8x4 propeller and a 30amp ESC, and a 1300mah 3s 25c battery, I think it would be a good combination for a 600grm plane. If you have an watt/amp meter you could play around with the propellers a bit more...... If you hav'nt flown before I suggest you try FMS it's a Rc flight simulator, it's available on the internet FREE!!! it's much cheaper to crash on a simulator!
actually my stock esc is 25A. Wı*ll it be a problem. Or should I change the ESC. Actually there are to many informatı*on about motor esc and propeller confı*g but ı*t is not clear for me. For example ı*f I chose dst 1200 (ı*ts about 160w) wı*th same propeller what wı*ll be the dı*fferance.
Actually I am using FMS and as you said it helps too much. And I can easly land and take of planes in the sims. But ı*n real life I crash my 182 while in take of process. The problem was ı* did not think I should trim the controls. And Becasue of the factory defaults my 182 was ı*n very bad condı*tı*on. For exp. the left and right aerlons act differently. So ı* decided to go back to first step and start from begening. Thats why I am searching, questioning and asking too much. Thank you for your help.
The other motor (160watt) is less power, your esc would be ok for that, Your esc should be ok for the 2210-1400kv motor as well, the max current for that motor is 24amps, as long as you don't fly full throttle all the time your esc is ok for both of those motors. with the smaller motors you get less thrust any of these motors will lift your 600grm plane, as for propellers I like to use a watt/amp meter to check, if you don't have one I would start with a 8x4 propeller and go on from there,.... make sure all your servo's are in a neutral state before you power your plane,..... make sure your CENTRE OF GRAVITY is correct BEFORE you try and fly!!! and while your elevator servo is in neutral just give it a tiny bit of up. also make sure your ailerons, elevator and rudder are moving in the CORRECT directions! that's about all I can do for you,.. It's a learning curve everyone has to take, try and enjoy it, to me the most important thing you do is the "CG" centre of gravity, if that's wrong your plane won't fly properly and will end in tears, good luck Cagdas
ps, the ailerons are meant to act differently! bank left is = right aileron down and left aileron up!...... looking from the back of the plane....... make sure this is correct on your plane! .....the elevator up means the elevator goes up!... these have to be correct before you can fly!!!
I see. Actually I notice that the aerlons are acting within different range (left one goes up only 5 mm max and the other side goes down 10mm down when ı* want to turn other side right side goes up 8mm and left side goes down 12mm)becasue of the servos. So I am trying to correct it. When I make them equal the movement range is too small. So I decide that to use two seperate servos and mixing them via transmiter instead of using one servo for left and right aerlons as stock setup.
Thank you for all your time. and clear answers. I have one more question. Normally ı* am using 32 1300 Mah lipo and they are giving around 12v at their maximum charge. And as soon as u start to use your battery that level goes down and at aroun 8v esc brakes off the motorfor securing the batteries. But within this process volt ration of the batery goes down to around 8 volts. so is it means that 220 W motor will take maksimum 220W / 12V = 18,3 Amp (W = V x A). But when it will reach 8 volt it started to take 220w / 8 V = 27,5 Amp if you still try to use the motor with full throttle.
so should I consider the end point Volt of the batteries.
I have never measured the battery's voltage's from charged or discharged, I charge them, use them till I notice a reduction in motor power, then I land the plane, I measure voltage and amps when fitting a propeller to a model and once I'm happy with the current flow I just fly till the motor starts to lose power. I normally carry around 3-5 charged battery's with me so I don't really worry about the battery's, I suppose I rely on the programing in the esc to conserve enough power for a timely landing and so far for me it's always worked out, I just use the standard settings on the esc, but yes if you try to fly full throttle on a discharged battery it may take all the power for the motor causing loss of control of servo's. I have Hobbyking ESC's, turbo-jet esc's, mystery ESC's and some unknown named ESC's I have never needed to reprogram any of them, they are all programmed to reduce power as your battery voltage goes down as a standard setting, and like I said if I notice a power drop I land the plane, sometimes just glide in like the old nitro days of running out of fuel. If your talking about the alarm on the transmitter, I don't have that function so I can't advise you....... By the way when the battery is only supplying 8volts the motor is INCAPABLE of producing 220watts, that is only provided with a fully charged battery, so forget the 27.5amps. the amps will be what ever the battery can produce as it discharges, it MAY get down to only be 5amps, so 5amps X 8volts = 40watts!............Consider the end point of the battery when you first notice the drop in power, that's what I do.
Sorry Cagdas, I forgot, with your servo's make sure they are in central position before you attach the push rods! if they are not central you will get that problem, ALL the servo's on the plane need to be in the centre position before you attach push rods!!!!!
thanks Ral after all these advices I checked my servos and adjusted them. Actually yesterday I had problem with take off and I demaged my 182. Actually ı* learned too much thing while looking for a repair solution. Thanks for all your time.
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I would like to use this on my Art Tech Cessna 182. I dont't have the original spinner from Art Tech, it's broken. How to I would like fit a different props on this with out the original spinner. I have many of 8x6 triblades lying around. Original and master airscrew, but I think the draw to much amps for this because of the KV.
Should I buy a motor with lower KV? I would still like to know how to fit different props on 3mm threaded shafts. APC or TGS sport. I have read about prop savers but I would like to have less vibrations. Has anyone tried at HK spinner? I see here that you guyes recommend 7x6 prop.
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I believe the best thing to do is cut the threaded part of the shaft off and fit a normal 3mm propeller adapter, that's what I did after the shaft snapped at the threaded part of the shaft, my threaded part of the shaft was less than 3mm,
Hi, that is not an option unless I make or buy a new motor mount to make it go past the cowl. I was hoping not to do that. I've searched all over the net for a solution. I've read people have been using collet style adapters and prop savers. The best thing would be a spinner. I think a found one here 30 mm for 3 mm shaft. The original is 28mm.
LOL I think it will work. There is only thread way into the cowl. No room for collet style, I have many of them.
Wing Area: 19.5dm2
Wing Loading: 21.5g/dm2
Servo: 9g x 2
ESC: 10A brushless
Motor: 2408-21 80W brushless outrunner
I bought the one you mentionet too yesterday for my other non threaded motors
I use an 8x6 dd gws (the funny orange ones), 50 flights pulling a Cessna foamy, no problems, motor windings look great, lots of power, I measure 22 amps and around 230 watts so it has worked well, for me. Zippy 1300 mah 3s.
Because there is such a difference, I just checked mine again on a 2200 3s 20c battery with a jetpro 30amp esc, and now I'm getting 24.5amps 240watts with the 8x4 prop, I think the battery condition may alter these figures a bit (my battery's have many cycles on them) but I think firedawg that 8x6 prop your using is not as efficient as the master airscrew I'm using, you have a bigger bite on your prop but your not spinning it as hard, what "C" rating is your 1300mah 3s and the esc rating??
Ya, I would definitely say my battery is a limiting factor. Mine are only 20c, I had in my stock pile a 7x6 master airscrew but it didn't perform as well as 8x6. I just use those cheap gws, my Cessna has been quite the trainer for me and I like that they break easier than the motor shaft. Lol. On my larger crafts I really like the MA props. 40 amp esc so I know I'm safe there.
I like the apc style props, I have one on my skywalker falcon with a turnigy2826 2200kv and it screams! I only used the 8x4 on the 2210 because I was waiting for the apc to be delivered, but it performed so well I left it on. What surprised me was the amps dropped since I last tested the motor 28amps compared to 24.5amps, maybe the air temperature it's about 35c here today and maybe the battery is a bit older too.
I fitted an 8x4 2 blade prop on this motor on my teksumo, which has an all up weight of around 900grms and it can go vertical no problem, BUT it pulls 28 amps doing it at full throttle the motors max is 22 amps!, I only use full throttle sparingly and so far it's been good! I would say a 8x6x3 prop is too much for this motor and I think the Ideal prop would be a 7x6 twin blade. it has heaps of power to pull or push 900grms.
Amazing motor never bent a shaft as I use a prop saver. One plane the prop hits the ground on every landing since it is a profile jet. I have 300 flights on that motor and never had an issue. I moved the motor forward ( backward it is a pusher) and cut the shaft off shorter. I am also thinking of using this motor on a quin copter 6 moyors with a KK2 board as they are cheap and have lots of power.
Yea, I've never bent 1 either but I've had the shaft snap at the threaded part in mid air, I like the motor too I think the secret is to keep the shaft short, I like the power of this motor, I don't like the threaded part of the shaft it's less than 3mm and cannot take the power of the motor unless you shorten it that's the way it looks to me............. Your quin copter will have 6x250 watts of power = 1500watts!! you'll need a car battery to get it up!! LOL! have fun with that.
The mah tells you how long the battery last's milliamps/hour, the "C" figure tells you how much current you can draw, if you prop a single motor to it's max at 3s it will draw 22amps for 250watts, 22 amps X 6 motors means 132 amps, you could weld 5mm thick steel plates together with that current flow, you would need some serious battery's and serious cable sizes for that sort of current! at full power that is, let us know how you get on with that project it sounds interesting......hmmmm maybe 6 1300mah 3s 25c battery's, 6 20amp esc's that would give a running time at around 10 minutes, and keep the cable size down too, NOW you've got me thinking about it!!!!! good luck!
My shaft snapped mid flight, the propeller sliced through half the aileron hinge and down came my teksumo, no major damage, battery pushed back into shape by hand and seems to charge ok, no damage to wing and a 3mm prop adapter went on what was left of the shaft! the threaded part of the shaft is under 3mm but where there is no thread it is 3mm, I advise any one with one of these motors to cut the threaded part off and use a prop adapter, less likely to snap the shaft, and cause some damage:target=_blank>broken shaft:target=_blank>sliced aileron
I know the description says 3mm shaft but mine is smaller! I think it's 2.25mm if I put it in a drill gauge it's way under 3m but bigger than 2mm, using a drill bit is a good idea, hss steel shaft will snap instead of bending.
No meu F-18 shock-fly eu inverto o vermelho e o preto e fica muito bom.
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I replaced an Art-tech C2830-21 with this motor in a HK/RICCS TB-20 with a 9x6 SF prop and WOW! Full throttle with a Turnigy 1300mah 30-40C battery gave 3.5 minutes vs 5 for the C2830-21; however, the thrust difference was phenomenal. Normal flights with throttle control provides the same 6 minutes as the original setup. Time will tell as to endurance, but for now, I'm having fun.
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Nice Motor, no vibrations. Make sure you cyno or epoxy the base to the motor bearing tube as this is mostly where they come apart and the vibrations start instead of over tightening the grub screws as they damage the bearings. I run 8x3.8 TGY props on these and almost always they need a lot of balancing to get a smooth setup. So check this before you blame the motor. Bearings on mine are all good out the box.
Ã³timo motor. Uso ele em uma zagi 90cm com helice 7x6, fica muito rapida
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I bought two of these and they are the worst motors I have used , lots of vibrations, run hot, both burnt wiring, got about 30 min out of them, 1300mah 11.1 turnigy bat, 30amp plush turnigy esc, 9x5 prop super hot, 8x6 hot, 8x4 hot , 8x6 3 blade hot, 7x4 not too bad, cost to send back not worth it, and shafts are super soft, not a good buy, I have bought other motors from hk that are great but not these